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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+
+During a test installation of M2b3 some other installations are
+detected and get listed in the Grub menu, but others don't.
+For example, Ubuntu is ignored. That uses Grub2 so it would be
+a bit much to expect Grub to understand it, BUT Ubuntu's Grub2
+is installed on Unbutu's root partition.
+
+Can partitions with boot loaders on them be detected and listed
+in Grub's menu as something to be chained? i.e. Install M2b3
+and get Grub installed to the mbr. Then on booting, Grub could
+present a menu that includes all of the standard M2b3 options,
+any other kernels that were found (not the Ubuntu kernels because
+they are under Grub2 and too hard) and an entry for the Ubuntu
+partition. The partition is LABELed &quot;Ubuntu&quot;. If &quot;Ubuntu&quot; were
+selected from the M2b3 mbr Grub menu, then the Grub2 on the Ubuntu
+root partition could be chained (and then an Ubuntu kernel).
+
+Is this do-able?
+
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>On 04/27/2012 02:28 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lsmod | grep atl didn't get any hits and lsmod | grep b43 gives this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless it uses a different name I don't think my laptop uses the atl1c
+</I>&gt;<i> driver. I don't think it's a bug in the b43 firmware since that works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine once it's installed. I would guess it's a hardware probe of some
+</I>&gt;<i> sort that locks up when it encounters the wireless NIC without firmware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Sounds right. In that case, file a bug against the b43 driver for your
+chipset.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> During a test installation of M2b3 some other installations are
+</I>&gt;<i> detected and get listed in the Grub menu, but others don't.
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, Ubuntu is ignored. &#160;That uses Grub2 so it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit much to expect Grub to understand it, BUT Ubuntu's Grub2
+</I>&gt;<i> is installed on Unbutu's root partition.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can partitions with boot loaders on them be detected and listed
+</I>&gt;<i> in Grub's menu as something to be chained? &#160;i.e. Install M2b3
+</I>&gt;<i> and get Grub installed to the mbr. &#160;Then on booting, Grub could
+</I>&gt;<i> present a menu that includes all of the standard M2b3 options,
+</I>&gt;<i> any other kernels that were found (not the Ubuntu kernels because
+</I>&gt;<i> they are under Grub2 and too hard) and an entry for the Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> partition. &#160;The partition is LABELed &quot;Ubuntu&quot;. &#160;If &quot;Ubuntu&quot; were
+</I>&gt;<i> selected from the M2b3 mbr Grub menu, then the Grub2 on the Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> root partition could be chained (and then an Ubuntu kernel).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this do-able?
+</I>
+Yes. That is the way I install all distributions.
+
+1. Install a minimal small distribution which uses grub, without X.
+The only purpose is to put its grub into the MBR and serve as the
+&quot;steering center&quot;.
+
+2. Install all other distributions with putting their bootloader into
+their respective root partition
+
+3. Enter the installations into the menu.lst of the steering center's grub with
+
+title &lt;distributiion name&gt;
+root (hd0,4)
+chainloader +
+
+Here the bootloader of the distribution to start lies in /dev/sda5
+
+The advantage of this way is not only that you can install
+distributions with different bootloaders. Whenever you install a new
+kernel in any of these distributions you have to do nothing extra
+because the new kernel is set in the distribution's bootloader, not in
+the master boot loader.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On 04/29/2012 11:05 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 02:28 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lsmod | grep atl didn't get any hits and lsmod | grep b43 gives this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless it uses a different name I don't think my laptop uses the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> atl1c driver. I don't think it's a bug in the b43 firmware since that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> works fine once it's installed. I would guess it's a hardware probe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of some sort that locks up when it encounters the wireless NIC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without firmware.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds right. In that case, file a bug against the b43 driver for
+</I>&gt;<i> your chipset.
+</I>
+Bug report is here for anyone interested:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5682">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5682</A>
+
+My thanks to Frank and the others who offered help. It's this kind of
+community support that puts Mageia ahead of the other distros and the
+reason I'm migrating all my systems to Mageia (even the temperamental
+laptops).
+
+Jeff
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+<PRE>My compliments on the new mga2 artwork. I not only find it attractive
+and elegant, but I believe it will 'age' well. I actually installed it
+over my previous customized background because I liked the default mga2
+artwork better. Nice work!
+
+Jeff
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>Beautiful, but I see a problem on my 1200x1600 resolution machines:
+On the login screen the last letter of mageia logo down right is out of border
+
+
+ magei
+
+
+s&#246;ndagen den 29 april 2012 19.38.53 skrev imnotpc:
+&gt;<i> My compliments on the new mga2 artwork. I not only find it attractive
+</I>&gt;<i> and elegant, but I believe it will 'age' well. I actually installed it
+</I>&gt;<i> over my previous customized background because I liked the default mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork better. Nice work!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>
+--
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