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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 27 00:54:47 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>The &quot;Transaction is destructive&quot; bug is tracked by
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5381">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5381</A> , and it appears to have
+been fixed, although there will probably be a delay before it hits the
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+ <B>imnotpc</B>
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+<PRE>On 04/26/2012 03:22 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 04/26/2012 02:21 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 04/26/2012 01:58 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 04/26/2012 01:06 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well this is truly odd. It locks up at many different places. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> know this sounds crazy but the point it locks up at seems to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> related to whether I select the default boot image to boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> immediately or just let it time out and boot. It's almost like
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is a timer that begins when grub loads and the system locks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up a certain time after that no matter where it is in the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sequence.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think you misunderstand. This is what happens using the default
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot. The safe boot give the HAL failure error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, you can test the timer theory easily enough. When the grub
+</I>&gt;<i> sreen comes up, use the up or down arrow to move off of the default
+</I>&gt;<i> selection and back onto it. That will disable the autoboot timer.
+</I>&gt;<i> Let it sit there for 5 minutes, then hit ENTER and let it boot and see
+</I>&gt;<i> what happens.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any luck if you install the firmware ?
+</I>
+I did a lot of testing and ,while changing the time from grub screen to
+start of boot did make a difference in the point the system locked up,
+there was not enough correlation to conclude anything. I'm doing a clean
+install now and will re-start this thread when I have more info.
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+<PRE>Is there a gsetting to supress the new Mageia artwork in Epiphany? It
+clobbers the prompt to open my previous tabs before switching to
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/.">http://www.mageia.org/en/.</A>
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+Thanks,
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+Mike
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+<PRE>On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:14:53PM -0400, Michael Hill wrote:
+&gt;<i> Is there a gsetting to supress the new Mageia artwork in Epiphany? It
+</I>&gt;<i> clobbers the prompt to open my previous tabs before switching to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/.">http://www.mageia.org/en/.</A>
+</I>
+I do not understand what you mean. Could you post a screenshot of the
+problem? If artwork is not nice, then it should be removed by default.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> I don't really have a lot of clues to offer. After installation it
+</I>&gt;<i> goes through the boot sequence and fails with either a blank screen
+</I>&gt;<i> for the default ATI driver, or a multi-color pixelated screen with the
+</I>&gt;<i> vesa driver. I've never seen the vesa driver lock up before. At times
+</I>&gt;<i> I've managed to get to the command line and discovered that in
+</I>&gt;<i> addition the networking won't work, either wired or wireless. I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> gladly submit a bug report or comment on an existing one, but I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know where to start on this one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>
+The problems installing mga2 on this laptop are truly puzzling. Here's a
+current summary:
+
+I've done a clean install of mga2 and the default boot entry still hangs
+with a blank screen.
+
+How quickly you start the boot changes the outcome of the boot. I can
+now duplicate different outcomes when I start the boot at different
+times during the first 0-2 seconds after the boot menu appears.
+
+If I immediately select the safe mode menu item I can now get to a
+command line. If I wait longer it will hang at 2 different points
+depending on how long I wait.
+
+The wired network connection doesn't work after booting. If I run
+drakconnect I can see that the settings are correct for the wired
+interface and there is no entry for the wireless interface. When I save
+the setting drakconnect locks up while testing the connection. If I
+disable the wired interface drakconnect saves and exits without problem.
+However when I reboot the default boot entry now locks up while trying
+to start the network: &quot;Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...&quot;
+
+I install over the network so I know there is no additional firmware
+required for the wired interface. I'm open to suggestions (other than
+chucking the laptop out the window, which is a very appealing idea right
+now!)
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+for drakconnect to test your network? It takes at least that length of
+time on all of my installs (and always reports failure).
+
+On 27/04/2012, imnotpc &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 04/25/2012 06:51 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't really have a lot of clues to offer. After installation it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> goes through the boot sequence and fails with either a blank screen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the default ATI driver, or a multi-color pixelated screen with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vesa driver. I've never seen the vesa driver lock up before. At times
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've managed to get to the command line and discovered that in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> addition the networking won't work, either wired or wireless. I'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gladly submit a bug report or comment on an existing one, but I don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know where to start on this one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problems installing mga2 on this laptop are truly puzzling. Here's a
+</I>&gt;<i> current summary:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've done a clean install of mga2 and the default boot entry still hangs
+</I>&gt;<i> with a blank screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How quickly you start the boot changes the outcome of the boot. I can
+</I>&gt;<i> now duplicate different outcomes when I start the boot at different
+</I>&gt;<i> times during the first 0-2 seconds after the boot menu appears.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I immediately select the safe mode menu item I can now get to a
+</I>&gt;<i> command line. If I wait longer it will hang at 2 different points
+</I>&gt;<i> depending on how long I wait.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wired network connection doesn't work after booting. If I run
+</I>&gt;<i> drakconnect I can see that the settings are correct for the wired
+</I>&gt;<i> interface and there is no entry for the wireless interface. When I save
+</I>&gt;<i> the setting drakconnect locks up while testing the connection. If I
+</I>&gt;<i> disable the wired interface drakconnect saves and exits without problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> However when I reboot the default boot entry now locks up while trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to start the network: &quot;Starting LSB: Bring up/down networking...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I install over the network so I know there is no additional firmware
+</I>&gt;<i> required for the wired interface. I'm open to suggestions (other than
+</I>&gt;<i> chucking the laptop out the window, which is a very appealing idea right
+</I>&gt;<i> now!)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problems installing mga2 on this laptop are truly puzzling. Here's
+</I>&gt;<i> a current summary:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've done a clean install of mga2 and the default boot entry still
+</I>&gt;<i> hangs with a blank screen.
+</I>
+I'll say again, have you tried installing the radeon-firmware ? The
+problems in cauldron with different ATI chips are well-known and are
+being worked on. Some work in text mode with nokmsboot, and some
+don't. Yours doesn't appear to, so you're stuck using the firmware.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How quickly you start the boot changes the outcome of the boot. I can
+</I>&gt;<i> now duplicate different outcomes when I start the boot at different
+</I>&gt;<i> times during the first 0-2 seconds after the boot menu appears.
+</I>
+This may be misleading. At least some of the ATI driver problems
+involve kernel loops of varying length trying to allocate memory without
+success. There's really nothing to be done here except to give the
+driver what it needs.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I immediately select the safe mode menu item I can now get to a
+</I>&gt;<i> command line. If I wait longer it will hang at 2 different points
+</I>&gt;<i> depending on how long I wait.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wired network connection doesn't work after booting. If I run
+</I>&gt;<i> drakconnect I can see that the settings are correct for the wired
+</I>&gt;<i> interface and there is no entry for the wireless interface. When I
+</I>&gt;<i> save the setting drakconnect locks up while testing the connection. If
+</I>&gt;<i> I disable the wired interface drakconnect saves and exits without
+</I>&gt;<i> problem. However when I reboot the default boot entry now locks up
+</I>&gt;<i> while trying to start the network: &quot;Starting LSB: Bring up/down
+</I>&gt;<i> networking...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I install over the network so I know there is no additional firmware
+</I>&gt;<i> required for the wired interface. I'm open to suggestions (other than
+</I>&gt;<i> chucking the laptop out the window, which is a very appealing idea
+</I>&gt;<i> right now!)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> I'll say again, check to see whether NetworkManager is controlling
+your NIC, and try disabling it if it is. And check your syslog for
+messages relating to eth0 on startup.
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+&gt;<i> I'm sorry if this sounds silly, but did you wait at least 2 minutes
+</I>&gt;<i> for drakconnect to test your network? It takes at least that length of
+</I>&gt;<i> time on all of my installs (and always reports failure).
+</I>
+Yes, but to verify I just tried again and waited 5 minutes. I read
+somewhere that the failure warning is generally limited to desktops (I
+think it was a wireless test that times out) and I don't get that
+warning with this laptop.
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+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 07:43 AM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problems installing mga2 on this laptop are truly puzzling.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here's a current summary:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've done a clean install of mga2 and the default boot entry still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hangs with a blank screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll say again, have you tried installing the radeon-firmware ? The
+</I>&gt;<i> problems in cauldron with different ATI chips are well-known and are
+</I>&gt;<i> being worked on. Some work in text mode with nokmsboot, and some
+</I>&gt;<i> don't. Yours doesn't appear to, so you're stuck using the firmware.
+</I>
+My difficulty here was that until this morning I didn't have command
+line access to do this. Even now I have no network access so I'll have
+to try putting the file on a USB stick and see if I can install that way.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How quickly you start the boot changes the outcome of the boot. I can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now duplicate different outcomes when I start the boot at different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> times during the first 0-2 seconds after the boot menu appears.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This may be misleading. At least some of the ATI driver problems
+</I>&gt;<i> involve kernel loops of varying length trying to allocate memory
+</I>&gt;<i> without success. There's really nothing to be done here except to
+</I>&gt;<i> give the driver what it needs.
+</I>
+Interesting.
+
+&gt;<i> I'll say again, check to see whether NetworkManager is controlling
+</I>&gt;<i> your NIC, and try disabling it if it is. And check your syslog for
+</I>&gt;<i> messages relating to eth0 on startup.
+</I>
+Sorry, I forgot to mention that I checked for this and NetworkManager is
+disabled by default. The syslog looks fine right up to the end with no
+failures and only a couple minor warnings. The log ends after the system
+brings up the loopback device. The last line is &quot;Configuring wireless
+regulatory domain [OK ]
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+
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+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, I forgot to mention that I checked for this and NetworkManager
+</I>&gt;<i> is disabled by default. The syslog looks fine right up to the end with
+</I>&gt;<i> no failures and only a couple minor warnings. The log ends after the
+</I>&gt;<i> system brings up the loopback device. The last line is &quot;Configuring
+</I>&gt;<i> wireless regulatory domain [OK ]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That line wouldn't be in syslog. It's part of the initialization log
+that appears on tty1 and in /var/log/prcsys. What you want to check is
+/var/log/syslog once you have command-line access. Assuming your wired
+connection is eth0, a search on &quot;eth0&quot; should find the entries of
+interest. If you don't find any, then the interface either isn't
+configured or isn't configured to start at boot.
+
+If the interface doesn't show up in &quot;ifconfig&quot;, then it was never
+configured. In any case, running drakconnect from the command line will
+define it; if it's already there, then it will show you the current
+settings.
+
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+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 09:12 AM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, I forgot to mention that I checked for this and NetworkManager
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is disabled by default. The syslog looks fine right up to the end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with no failures and only a couple minor warnings. The log ends after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the system brings up the loopback device. The last line is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Configuring wireless regulatory domain [OK ]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That line wouldn't be in syslog. It's part of the initialization log
+</I>&gt;<i> that appears on tty1 and in /var/log/prcsys. What you want to check
+</I>&gt;<i> is /var/log/syslog once you have command-line access. Assuming your
+</I>&gt;<i> wired connection is eth0, a search on &quot;eth0&quot; should find the entries
+</I>&gt;<i> of interest. If you don't find any, then the interface either isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> configured or isn't configured to start at boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the interface doesn't show up in &quot;ifconfig&quot;, then it was never
+</I>&gt;<i> configured. In any case, running drakconnect from the command line
+</I>&gt;<i> will define it; if it's already there, then it will show you the
+</I>&gt;<i> current settings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah, Mageia actually has a log file named syslog. OK, here's a grep of eth0:
+
+Apr 26 21:11:21 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.885739] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xffffc9000033a400, 00:0a:e4:e1:5e:95, XID
+10000000 IRQ 23
+Apr 26 21:11:21 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.885744] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: jumbo features [frames: 7152 bytes, tx checksumming: ok]
+Apr 26 21:12:28 JeffNote kernel: [ 9.454192] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xffffc90000342400, 00:0a:e4:e1:5e:95, XID
+10000000 IRQ 23
+Apr 26 21:12:28 JeffNote kernel: [ 9.454197] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: jumbo features [frames: 7152 bytes, tx checksumming: ok]
+Apr 27 07:20:56 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.959611] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xffffc9000033e400, 00:0a:e4:e1:5e:95, XID
+10000000 IRQ 23
+Apr 27 07:20:56 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.959616] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: jumbo features [frames: 7152 bytes, tx checksumming: ok]
+Apr 27 10:10:56 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.861500] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xffffc90000340400, 00:0a:e4:e1:5e:95, XID
+10000000 IRQ 23
+Apr 27 10:10:56 JeffNote kernel: [ 8.861505] r8169 0000:06:07.0:
+eth0: jumbo features [frames: 7152 bytes, tx checksumming: ok]
+
+Also, I was able to install the kernel firmware package off a USB drive,
+but it didn't change anything that I can tell. Is there something I need
+to do to configure the system to use it?
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+&gt;<i> Also, I was able to install the kernel firmware package off a USB drive,
+</I>&gt;<i> but it didn't change anything that I can tell. Is there something I need
+</I>&gt;<i> to do to configure the system to use it?
+</I>
+From command line, run: drakx11
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+&gt;<i> fredagen den 27 april 2012 16.33.53 skrev imnotpc:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, I was able to install the kernel firmware package off a USB drive,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but it didn't change anything that I can tell. Is there something I need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to do to configure the system to use it?
+</I>&gt;<i> From command line, run: drakx11
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I didn't use drakx11 but I did use drakconf-&gt;display which recognized
+the card and was able to successfully test it (this isn't necessarily
+new since the test also usually works during installation). This had no
+effect on the booting issue that I could tell.
+
+I did however get the bright idea to test x11 from the safe mode command
+line. I ran startx and it gave me a root desktop. I did ALT-F2 and was
+able to start my normal user desktop from there. Video and sound work
+normally but networking is still down.
+
+If I attempt to run Network Manager or MCC-&gt;Network&amp;Internet-&gt;Network
+Center the system locks up with a &quot;Please wait&quot; message.
+
+Getting safe mode to give me a command line is still iffy, but at least
+with a bit of effort I can get to my desktop. A little progress at least.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't use drakx11 but I did use drakconf-&gt;display which recognized
+</I>&gt;<i> the card and was able to successfully test it (this isn't necessarily
+</I>&gt;<i> new since the test also usually works during installation). This had
+</I>&gt;<i> no effect on the booting issue that I could tell.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did however get the bright idea to test x11 from the safe mode
+</I>&gt;<i> command line. I ran startx and it gave me a root desktop. I did ALT-F2
+</I>&gt;<i> and was able to start my normal user desktop from there. Video and
+</I>&gt;<i> sound work normally but networking is still down.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I attempt to run Network Manager or MCC-&gt;Network&amp;Internet-&gt;Network
+</I>&gt;<i> Center the system locks up with a &quot;Please wait&quot; message.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Getting safe mode to give me a command line is still iffy, but at
+</I>&gt;<i> least with a bit of effort I can get to my desktop. A little progress
+</I>&gt;<i> at least.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Arrggh. I should have thought of this before, considering that it
+afflicts my wife's Acer notebook.
+
+In the desktop you can get via safe mode, do MCC -&gt; Hardware -&gt; Browse
+hardware, and see if the driver for your wired NIC is atl1c, and also
+what your wireless driver is. The atl1c driver is known to cause
+sporadic system freezes when used in conjunction with a number of
+wireless drivers. Having the ethernet cable actually attached &quot;fixes&quot; this.
+
+I'm guessing now that your wired works during install because install
+doesn't load any wireless drivers. But once drakconnect or harddrake
+looks for your wireless, the wireless driver will be loaded
+automatically. Very probably neither driver gets loaded in safe mode.
+
+If your wired driver is atl1c, try
+ echo &quot;blacklist atl1c&quot; &gt; /etc/modprobe.d/atl1c.conf
+and the reboot in normal mode. If the system stops freezing, then
+you'll have to live without either wired or wireless. On most laptops,
+disabling wired most of the time really isn't a problem. If you really
+need wired on some occasion, just change the atl1c in the above
+blacklist command to whatever your wireless driver is, and you should be
+fine.
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+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 12:02 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I didn't use drakx11 but I did use drakconf-&gt;display which recognized
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the card and was able to successfully test it (this isn't necessarily
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> new since the test also usually works during installation). This had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no effect on the booting issue that I could tell.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did however get the bright idea to test x11 from the safe mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> command line. I ran startx and it gave me a root desktop. I did
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ALT-F2 and was able to start my normal user desktop from there. Video
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and sound work normally but networking is still down.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I attempt to run Network Manager or MCC-&gt;Network&amp;Internet-&gt;Network
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Center the system locks up with a &quot;Please wait&quot; message.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Getting safe mode to give me a command line is still iffy, but at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> least with a bit of effort I can get to my desktop. A little progress
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at least.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Arrggh. I should have thought of this before, considering that it
+</I>&gt;<i> afflicts my wife's Acer notebook.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the desktop you can get via safe mode, do MCC -&gt; Hardware -&gt; Browse
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware, and see if the driver for your wired NIC is atl1c, and also
+</I>&gt;<i> what your wireless driver is. The atl1c driver is known to cause
+</I>&gt;<i> sporadic system freezes when used in conjunction with a number of
+</I>&gt;<i> wireless drivers. Having the ethernet cable actually attached &quot;fixes&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm guessing now that your wired works during install because install
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't load any wireless drivers.
+</I>
+Yes, and success! I have an Acer also but it uses the b43 driver. Since
+the gui tools locked up I went back to drakconnect and tried to
+configure the wireless interface. It required firmware files but I
+installed them using my key drive the same way I installed the kernel
+firmware package. After I successfully installed the firmware the system
+boots normally and both NICs work.
+
+Is this a known bug? If not, what package should I file a bug report
+against?
+
+Thanks for all your efforts!
+
+Jeff
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, and success! I have an Acer also but it uses the b43 driver.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the gui tools locked up I went back to drakconnect and tried to
+</I>&gt;<i> configure the wireless interface. It required firmware files but I
+</I>&gt;<i> installed them using my key drive the same way I installed the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware package. After I successfully installed the firmware the
+</I>&gt;<i> system boots normally and both NICs work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a known bug? If not, what package should I file a bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> against?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>If you google &quot;linux freeze atl1c&quot; you'll get a bunch of hits, but it's
+not really clear which driver is causing the problem. Probably atl1c,
+since not all of those affected are using Broadcom wireless.
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+<PRE>On 04/27/2012 01:54 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 01:00 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, and success! I have an Acer also but it uses the b43 driver.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since the gui tools locked up I went back to drakconnect and tried to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure the wireless interface. It required firmware files but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed them using my key drive the same way I installed the kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> firmware package. After I successfully installed the firmware the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system boots normally and both NICs work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a known bug? If not, what package should I file a bug report
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> against?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you google &quot;linux freeze atl1c&quot; you'll get a bunch of hits, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not really clear which driver is causing the problem. Probably
+</I>&gt;<i> atl1c, since not all of those affected are using Broadcom wireless.
+</I>
+lsmod | grep atl didn't get any hits and lsmod | grep b43 gives this:
+
+b43 392212 0
+rng_core 13292 1 b43
+bcma 35012 1 b43
+mac80211 440190 1 b43
+cfg80211 199805 2 mac80211,b43
+ssb 62651 1 b43
+pcmcia 61681 2 ssb,b43
+mmc_core 114404 4 sdhci,sdhci_pci,ssb,b43
+
+Unless it uses a different name I don't think my laptop uses the atl1c
+driver. I don't think it's a bug in the b43 firmware since that works
+fine once it's installed. I would guess it's a hardware probe of some
+sort that locks up when it encounters the wireless NIC without firmware.
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+ <B>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado</B>
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+<PRE>Try installing: &quot;firmware-extra&quot; I think so, I worked with a USB and PCI cards
+in an ACER ASPIRE 5735
+
+2012/4/27 imnotpc &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 01:54 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 01:00 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, and success! I have an Acer also but it uses the b43 driver. Since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the gui tools locked up I went back to drakconnect and tried to configure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the wireless interface. It required firmware files but I installed them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> using my key drive the same way I installed the kernel firmware package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After I successfully installed the firmware the system boots normally and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> both NICs work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a known bug? If not, what package should I file a bug report
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> against?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you google &quot;linux freeze atl1c&quot; you'll get a bunch of hits, but it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not really clear which driver is causing the problem. Probably atl1c,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> since not all of those affected are using Broadcom wireless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lsmod | grep atl didn't get any hits and lsmod | grep b43 gives this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> b43 392212 0
+</I>&gt;<i> rng_core 13292 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> bcma 35012 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> mac80211 440190 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> cfg80211 199805 2 mac80211,b43
+</I>&gt;<i> ssb 62651 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> pcmcia 61681 2 ssb,b43
+</I>&gt;<i> mmc_core 114404 4 sdhci,sdhci_pci,ssb,b43
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless it uses a different name I don't think my laptop uses the atl1c
+</I>&gt;<i> driver. I don't think it's a bug in the b43 firmware since that works fine
+</I>&gt;<i> once it's installed. I would guess it's a hardware probe of some sort that
+</I>&gt;<i> locks up when it encounters the wireless NIC without firmware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+<PRE>I was not sure before, with the name, the correct name is &quot;*kernel-firmware
+-extra*&quot;, you have to remove *ndiswrapper*, out of the &quot;blacklist&quot; atl1c.
+
+2012/4/27 imnotpc &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 01:54 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 04/27/2012 01:00 PM, imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, and success! I have an Acer also but it uses the b43 driver. Since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the gui tools locked up I went back to drakconnect and tried to configure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the wireless interface. It required firmware files but I installed them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> using my key drive the same way I installed the kernel firmware package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After I successfully installed the firmware the system boots normally and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> both NICs work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a known bug? If not, what package should I file a bug report
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> against?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you google &quot;linux freeze atl1c&quot; you'll get a bunch of hits, but it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not really clear which driver is causing the problem. Probably atl1c,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> since not all of those affected are using Broadcom wireless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lsmod | grep atl didn't get any hits and lsmod | grep b43 gives this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> b43 392212 0
+</I>&gt;<i> rng_core 13292 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> bcma 35012 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> mac80211 440190 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> cfg80211 199805 2 mac80211,b43
+</I>&gt;<i> ssb 62651 1 b43
+</I>&gt;<i> pcmcia 61681 2 ssb,b43
+</I>&gt;<i> mmc_core 114404 4 sdhci,sdhci_pci,ssb,b43
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless it uses a different name I don't think my laptop uses the atl1c
+</I>&gt;<i> driver. I don't think it's a bug in the b43 firmware since that works fine
+</I>&gt;<i> once it's installed. I would guess it's a hardware probe of some sort that
+</I>&gt;<i> locks up when it encounters the wireless NIC without firmware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+ <B>Michael Hill</B>
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+On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I do not understand what you mean. Could you post a screenshot of the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem? If artwork is not nice, then it should be removed by default.
+</I>
+For a few weeks Epiphany started empty. I got used to quitting from
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+<I>Michael Hill
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+<I>imnotpc
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+<I>Olav Vitters
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+<I>Michael Hill
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+<I>Frank Griffin
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+<I>Michael Hill
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