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+ <B>Len Lawrence</B>
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+<PRE>Just a quick summary of recent experiences on test machine.
+
+Alienware X51 : i7-2600 : 8Gb : nVidia GTX 555 : SATA 1 TB
+
+grub boot in legacy mode OK
+ethernet = Realtek RTL8111/8168B Worked out of the box
+wireless = Atheros AR9285 Worked with some problems
+ Too flaky to continue with. Drops
+ out at inconvenient times
+ like in the middle of an update.
+display = Geforce GTX 55 (OEM) XFdrake, nvidia 295.40 worked fine
+login = GNOME Classic OK, but skipped on reboots
+ Feature or bug?
+optical drive is a Bluray combo CD/DVD works out of the box
+ Other functions not tested
+
+Logins and reboots are very fast
+Session properties not accurately remembered over reboots
+ GTK2 versus GTK3 perhaps?
+Mounted media do not show up on the desktop (as icons)
+
+ssh works fine
+
+Len
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+ <B>Len Lawrence</B>
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+<PRE>I have hit a problem with urpmi. Something in the system has been
+corrupted. After a lot of downloads using the wireless adapter I
+switched to a wired connection because wireless kept dropping out
+unpredictably. After a while continuing with installations urpmi
+reckoned that the database needed updating. Did not know how to do
+that so tried urpmi --auto-update and ended up with the following
+errors:
+
+The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+basesystem-2-6.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing basesystem-minimal)
+basesystem-minimal-2-6.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to unsatisfied mageia-release &gt;= 1)
+drakconf-12.26-1.mga2.noarch
+ (due to missing mageia-release)
+mageia-release-Default-2-0.7.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing mageia-release-common(lib64))
+mageia-release-common-2-0.7.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to conflicts with kernel-desktop-3.3.3-1.mga2-1-1.mga2.i586)
+rpm-build-4.9.1.3-2.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to unsatisfied rpm-mageia-setup-build &gt;= 1.34)
+rpm-mageia-setup-build-1.147-6.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing mageia-release)
+
+urpmi reports that basesystem-minimal is already installed if I try to
+install it and the same with other components. Is there any way to
+recover from this situation or do I have to reinstall?
+
+Help!
+
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>tisdagen den 24 april 2012 00.21.16 skrev Len Lawrence:
+-snip-
+&gt;<i> urpmi reports that basesystem-minimal is already installed if I try to
+</I>&gt;<i> install it and the same with other components. Is there any way to
+</I>&gt;<i> recover from this situation or do I have to reinstall?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Help!
+</I>
+First, i would try to rebuild the rpm database:
+
+# rpm --rebuilddb
+
+--
+Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+<PRE>Bug Report Help Required
+
+Setup - Dual monitors with seperate X-sessions
+
+OS - Mga2 beta3 fully updated
+
+I have the following problem but do not know what to report it against in a
+bug report. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
+
+When I use the Ctrl + F* keys to change virtual desktops the shortcuts do
+not work correctly.
+
+When I use these shortcuts on the primary screen the virtual desktop changes
+on both monitors to which ever one was selected, but when used on the
+secondary monitor there is no screen change on ever screen.
+
+I notice that under KDE4 there is only a single configure file (.Desktop)
+whereas under KDE3.5 there were two, .Desktop and a .Desktop1. Could this
+lack of a second configure file be the reason behind the problem I'm seeing.
+
+.-.-.-.-.-.-.
+
+David Taylor, Puniho
+'the place to be; beneath the Mountain, beside the Sea'
+<A HREF="http://www.pwx.gen.nz">http://www.pwx.gen.nz</A>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+whose computer uses linux/open source software, featuring
+Mageia release 1 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
+Uptime 10 min
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+ <B>Len Lawrence</B>
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+<PRE>On 24/04/12 00:14, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m wrote:
+&gt;<i> tisdagen den 24 april 2012 00.21.16 skrev Len Lawrence:
+</I>&gt;<i> -snip-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi reports that basesystem-minimal is already installed if I try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install it and the same with other components. Is there any way to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recover from this situation or do I have to reinstall?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Help!
+</I>&gt;<i> First, i would try to rebuild the rpm database:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks. Great advice. Running on kernel 3.3.3 now.
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+&gt;<i> Just a quick summary of recent experiences on test machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alienware X51 : i7-2600 : 8Gb : nVidia GTX 555 : SATA 1 TB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> grub boot in legacy mode OK
+</I>&gt;<i> ethernet = Realtek RTL8111/8168B Worked out of the box
+</I>&gt;<i> wireless = Atheros AR9285 Worked with some problems
+</I>&gt;<i> Too flaky to continue with. Drops
+</I>&gt;<i> out at inconvenient times
+</I>&gt;<i> like in the middle of an update.
+</I>&gt;<i> display = Geforce GTX 55 (OEM) XFdrake, nvidia 295.40 worked fine
+</I>&gt;<i> login = GNOME Classic OK, but skipped on reboots
+</I>&gt;<i> Feature or bug?
+</I>&gt;<i> optical drive is a Bluray combo CD/DVD works out of the box
+</I>&gt;<i> Other functions not tested
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Logins and reboots are very fast
+</I>&gt;<i> Session properties not accurately remembered over reboots
+</I>&gt;<i> GTK2 versus GTK3 perhaps?
+</I>&gt;<i> Mounted media do not show up on the desktop (as icons)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ssh works fine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Len
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Autologin sounds like it is bug #5488
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+&gt;<i> wireless = Atheros AR9285 Worked with some problems
+</I>&gt;<i> Too flaky to continue with. Drops
+</I>&gt;<i> out at inconvenient times
+</I>&gt;<i> like in the middle of an update.
+</I>
+Did you try to turn off the option
+&quot;Allow interface to be controlled by network manager&quot; ?
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+&gt;<i> tisdagen den 24 april 2012 00.05.59 skrev Len Lawrence:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wireless = Atheros AR9285 Worked with some problems
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Too flaky to continue with. Drops
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out at inconvenient times
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> like in the middle of an update.
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you try to turn off the option
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Allow interface to be controlled by network manager&quot; ?
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+</I>Yes. On advice from Ubuntu users.
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+<PRE>I just saw that systemd creates (and does not purge) lots of directories
+like /tmp/systemd-namespace-&lt;uniqueid&gt;/ - I now have nearly 50 of them
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+Nothing serious, they are small - but nevertheless ... Is this normal,
+shouldnt there be some automatic purging mechanism?
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+&gt;<i> I just saw that systemd creates (and does not purge) lots of directories like
+</I>&gt;<i> /tmp/systemd-namespace-&lt;uniqueid&gt;/ - I now have nearly 50 of them (one
+</I>&gt;<i> partial explanation might be that I did quite some re-booting these last days).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing serious, they are small - but nevertheless ... Is this normal,
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldnt there be some automatic purging mechanism?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe we should default to /tmp being on tmpfs so that
+this gets purged on every reboot? This would also be more
+in accordance with FHS imho.
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+CC'ing -dev for this one.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Florian Hubold at 24/04/12 21:27 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 24.04.2012 20:51, schrieb Juergen Harms:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just saw that systemd creates (and does not purge) lots of directories like
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /tmp/systemd-namespace-&lt;uniqueid&gt;/ - I now have nearly 50 of them (one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> partial explanation might be that I did quite some re-booting these last days).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Nothing serious, they are small - but nevertheless ... Is this normal,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shouldnt there be some automatic purging mechanism?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we should default to /tmp being on tmpfs so that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this gets purged on every reboot? This would also be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in accordance with FHS imho.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is one of my goals for mga3 (I have it in my notes for the
+</I>&gt;<i> technical specs discussion that will come), but certainly not for mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> as this is quite a big change and some apps may have to be patched to
+</I>&gt;<i> use /var/tmp instead etc. if they store large things in there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, this is what FHS says (in an ideal world it would reflect reality)
+
+ Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are
+ preserved between invocations of the program.
+
+ IEEE standard P1003.2 (POSIX, part 2) makes requirements that are similar
+ to the above section.
+
+ Although data stored in /tmp may be deleted in a site-specific manner, it
+ is recommended that files and directories located in /tmp be deleted
+ whenever the system is booted.
+
+Just mentioned it as one possible solution to the problem at hands.
+
+
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+On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Manuel Kaufmann&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">humitos at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm writing you to ask about GKT3 in Debian Testing. The thing is that
+</I>&gt;<i> I was trying to port Help Activity to Gtk3 and WebKit and I realized
+</I>&gt;<i> that the icons on the top toolbar are not shown. In fact, I made a
+</I>&gt;<i> PATCH (that ports the activity) and &quot;manuq&quot; told me it works properly
+</I>&gt;<i> in Fedora 16.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the problem is with my own libraries and I couldn't find it yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same happens to me with Browse Activity. I can start it but I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't see the icons on the top bar. Actually, they are there because I
+</I>&gt;<i> can click on them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have a clue about this?
+</I>
+I'm not 100% sure about Debian but I know with Fedora there's a number
+of specific versions of various deps that you need, in the early dev
+cycle on F-17 we had to patch a few bits n pieces. From memory (and I
+might be wildly wrong here) there was specific versions of librsvg2,
+pygobject3 gtk3 and webkit that were needed.
+
+Peter
+
+-----------
+ (This may also apply to &quot;browse&quot; in task sugar - Mageia cauldron)
+Look at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4973">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4973</A>
+
+Tom Gilliard
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Florian Hubold at 24/04/12 21:27 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Am 24.04.2012 20:51, schrieb Juergen Harms:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just saw that systemd creates (and does not purge) lots of directories like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /tmp/systemd-namespace-&lt;uniqueid&gt;/ - I now have nearly 50 of them (one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> partial explanation might be that I did quite some re-booting these last days).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nothing serious, they are small - but nevertheless ... Is this normal,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shouldnt there be some automatic purging mechanism?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should default to /tmp being on tmpfs so that
+</I>&gt;<i> this gets purged on every reboot? This would also be more
+</I>&gt;<i> in accordance with FHS imho.
+</I>
+This is one of my goals for mga3 (I have it in my notes for the
+technical specs discussion that will come), but certainly not for mga2
+as this is quite a big change and some apps may have to be patched to
+use /var/tmp instead etc. if they store large things in there.
+
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+ <h1>24 April 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Apr 24 00:05:59 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Apr 24 23:28:36 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01335218759- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007102.html">[Mageia-discuss] mga2b3 installation from GNOME CD summary
+</A><A NAME="7102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335218759-01335254432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007108.html">[Mageia-discuss] mga2b3 installation from GNOME CD summary
+</A><A NAME="7108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01335218759-01335254432-01335265619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007109.html">[Mageia-discuss] mga2b3 installation from GNOME CD summary
+</A><A NAME="7109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01335218759-01335257083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007107.html">[Mageia-discuss] mga2b3 installation from GNOME CD summary
+</A><A NAME="7107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335219676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007103.html">[Mageia-discuss] urpmi failures at update
+</A><A NAME="7103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335219676-01335222862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007104.html">[Mageia-discuss] urpmi failures at update
+</A><A NAME="7104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01335219676-01335222862-01335249122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007106.html">[Mageia-discuss] urpmi failures at update
+</A><A NAME="7106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Len Lawrence
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335242058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007105.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cauldron - KDE and Ctrl + F* Keys to Change Between Virtual Desktops
+</A><A NAME="7105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335293493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007110.html">[Mageia-discuss] many systemd temporary directories
+</A><A NAME="7110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335293493-01335299278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007111.html">[Mageia-discuss] many systemd temporary directories
+</A><A NAME="7111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01335293493-01335299278-01335300677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007784.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] many systemd temporary directories
+</A><A NAME="7784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335302479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007112.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] many systemd temporary directories
+</A><A NAME="7112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335302916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="007113.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Re: [Sugar-devel] GTK3 in Debian Testing (This may apply to &quot;browse&quot; task sugar in Mageia cauldron)
+</A><A NAME="7113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Gilliard
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Apr 24 23:28:36 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:01:39 CEST 2012</i>
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