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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Testing after resubscription</H1>
+ <B>Len Lawrence</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Testing after resubscription">tarazed25 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Apr 22 23:37:24 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 22/04/12 03:27, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op zondag 22 april 2012 00:16:07 schreef Len Lawrence:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just to find out what happens when I post to the list. None of my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> postings from my gmail address show up but the replies do so it looks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> like the messages do get through. I had been receiving bounce and hold
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> messages from the list moderator saying that I am a non-member although
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> everything had run smoothly for a year before that. I unsubscribed and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> subscribed under my new email address but the situation has not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> changed;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> never see my own posts and bounce messages still arrive in my old
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mailbox. Sympa or whatever should no longer even know my old address.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If anybody sees this could they examine the mail headers and confirm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it comes from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com.</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Nobody needs this kind of mess in the middle of beta testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Len
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i've had this problem for ages when i used gmail before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> afaiu, it's like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you're using gmail, but with smtp and imap clients (not the web).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now as you all know, when you send an email from gmail webclient, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you send
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a message to an alias or a maillist which then delivers it back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you, you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't have doubles in your thread, but you do see your own email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> right away.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This &quot;feature&quot; which breaks rfc's, results in the fact that when you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imap client, you do not see the deliveries of your own sent email.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the only mail you see is the one you sent in your Sent folder.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as a result, you are constant in the unknown, because emails you send
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should receive, you don't receive them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this behavior is so with aliasses and mailing lists. there is one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exception,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and that is if you registered your alias in the web client.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the problem is that you can hardly do this with mailing lists... of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> course.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i've tried several times to tell them to turn off this &quot;feature&quot;, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't seem to want to do that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my response was not using gmail anymore, i've now set up my own email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and domain.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now, my threads are not broken and i get emails from aliases and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailinglists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even if i do send them myself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AL13N
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've never had that problem using pop access on gmail for mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I haven't used gmail for mageia lists, but for a number of other lists.)
+</I>&gt;<i> It might be something in your gmail setup. (There are a lot of options.)
+</I>&gt;<i> I've never tried using imap, but if you are using imap, it isn't hard
+</I>&gt;<i> to change to pop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depending how the user agent is configured, email can be left on the
+</I>&gt;<i> server with pop access, just like the imap default. (Which I do when
+</I>&gt;<i> travelling.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Right I shall follow that up. Did not realize there was a choice.
+
+Thanks
+
+Len
+
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