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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Testing after resubscription">alien at rmail.be
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+ <I>Sun Apr 22 01:18:22 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 22 april 2012 00:16:07 schreef Len Lawrence:
+&gt;<i> Just to find out what happens when I post to the list. None of my
+</I>&gt;<i> postings from my gmail address show up but the replies do so it looks
+</I>&gt;<i> like the messages do get through. I had been receiving bounce and hold
+</I>&gt;<i> messages from the list moderator saying that I am a non-member although
+</I>&gt;<i> everything had run smoothly for a year before that. I unsubscribed and
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribed under my new email address but the situation has not changed;
+</I>&gt;<i> never see my own posts and bounce messages still arrive in my old
+</I>&gt;<i> mailbox. Sympa or whatever should no longer even know my old address.
+</I>&gt;<i> If anybody sees this could they examine the mail headers and confirm
+</I>&gt;<i> that it comes from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nobody needs this kind of mess in the middle of beta testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Len
+</I>
+i've had this problem for ages when i used gmail before.
+
+afaiu, it's like this:
+
+you're using gmail, but with smtp and imap clients (not the web).
+
+now as you all know, when you send an email from gmail webclient, and you send
+a message to an alias or a maillist which then delivers it back to you, you
+don't have doubles in your thread, but you do see your own email right away.
+
+This &quot;feature&quot; which breaks rfc's, results in the fact that when you do use
+imap client, you do not see the deliveries of your own sent email.
+
+the only mail you see is the one you sent in your Sent folder.
+
+as a result, you are constant in the unknown, because emails you send out, and
+should receive, you don't receive them.
+
+this behavior is so with aliasses and mailing lists. there is one exception,
+and that is if you registered your alias in the web client.
+
+the problem is that you can hardly do this with mailing lists... of course.
+
+i've tried several times to tell them to turn off this &quot;feature&quot;, but they
+don't seem to want to do that.
+
+my response was not using gmail anymore, i've now set up my own email server
+and domain.
+
+now, my threads are not broken and i get emails from aliases and mailinglists
+even if i do send them myself.
+
+Regards,
+
+AL13N
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