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I added a PPA +</I>><i> & noticed how fun it was to test the code that it offers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the explanation of what PPA is & does according to the +</I>><i> Ubuntu-page: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> *"Personal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu source +</I>><i> packages to be built and published as an apt repository by Launchpad."* +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My idea would be something similar. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It starts with the user that gets annoyed how some Mageia-packages +</I>><i> that are meant to be stable that they aren't. +</I>><i> Instead of having to do the job themselves they can just add a special +</I>><i> media called user-contrib that contains packages built from git-source +</I>><i> to be tested in Cauldron & then released as Backport-version when +</I>><i> confirmed stable enough to see if the issue they had on the officially +</I>><i> stable package is gone. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know that it would take many people to build thoose, but I'm willing +</I>><i> to download git-code & compile & build for Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've already managed to compile & build the latest official version of +</I>><i> Transmission without using the official Mageia patches & I've got NO +</I>><i> problem at all using the package. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Test theese packages & say what you think: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm">http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm">http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /Kristoffer +</I> +Hi + +I have thought about it before how it could be useful after Mageia 2 has +been released for there to be PPA's or something like it for Mageia. + +With Ubuntu PPA's are really just repo's that can be added by users so +that they can get later versions of software that aren't in the Ubuntu +repo's. With PPA's it's meant to be known as well that they may be +buggy, because usually they have just been made by developers/packagers +or something like that I think, and not gone through a proper Quality +Assurance process. Really they are meant to be aimed at more experienced +users, but it seems that more recently since 2008 or something like +that, that quite a lot of less experienced Ubuntu users may also have at +least one PPA installed. Also to many installed PPA's can cause issues +with the Ubuntu install. + +I have been thinking before about the current Mageia release cycle and +when it comes to Gnome. Since the 9 months release cycle for example, it +seems that sometimes a new major version of Gnome will have to be +skipped, as in not offered by Mageia as an update for any supported +stable final release at the time. I am not a developer, but I assume +those versions of Gnome can be put into Cauldron and then backported to +the current stable release as well, or put into something like a PPA for +users to install into final Mageia releases. As for Cauldron it should +keep on having the latest versions of Gnome, usually development versions. + +In general most Desktop Linux users want the latest final versions of +the software that they use it seems, and I think that it would be good +if there was a easy way to offer this for most or all packages. This is +where something like Ubuntu's PPA's would come in. + +I think if Mageia has something like PPA's, they shouldn't need to +require QA from the QA team and it should be known users and potential +users that they may be buggy/unstable. Where as backports of course +will have gone through the Mageia QA team process. + +As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a +website for it like they have for Ubuntu +<A HREF="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas</A> and they should only be offered on +the site from people who have gone through the Mageia packaging process +and become trusted packagers I think. + +<A HREF="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/">http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/</A> + +<A HREF="https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA">https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA</A> + + From Sebastian sebsebseb + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120420/4eeecfb3/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007065.html">[Mageia-discuss] A proposal of some kind to get point of views & comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Configuring external monitor display +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7068">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7068">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7068">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7068">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |