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+<PRE>s&#246;ndagen den 15 april 2012 16.04.24 skrev Sander Lepik:
+&gt;<i> 15.04.2012 13:58, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have a laptop with toast ethernet NIC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A couple weeks ago i tried booting network install boot.iso and use intel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2200BG interface, but i think it it looks like one file was missing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you try boot-nonfree.iso? It should contain nonfree firmware and
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers for such cases.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>
+Yes, and i saw no difference at all; both interfaces fail.
+
+Possibly it do not even power up the PC-card as leds never lit up to confirm
+the connection to router, but if i plug it in a working system it lits up.
+
+So i guess that makes for two bugs?
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+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m skrev 16.4.2012 09:44:
+&gt;<i> s&#246;ndagen den 15 april 2012 16.04.24 skrev Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 15.04.2012 13:58, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a laptop with toast ethernet NIC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A couple weeks ago i tried booting network install boot.iso and use intel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2200BG interface, but i think it it looks like one file was missing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you try boot-nonfree.iso? It should contain nonfree firmware and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drivers for such cases.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, and i saw no difference at all; both interfaces fail.
+</I>
+Trouble for most (if not almost all) wireless usage is that we would
+need to know how to find and connect to the wireless AP and enter
+passwords etc, and this falls out of scope of boot.iso as it needs
+network access to download stage2 installer where this could be done.
+
+boot*.iso is supposed to stay small for local lan installs.
+
+If we start adding more code to boot*.iso, it becomes the same as dual &amp;
+livecds. what could/should be done is to add possibility to load nonfree
+firmware from additional local media to stage1
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Possibly it do not even power up the PC-card as leds never lit up to confirm
+</I>&gt;<i> the connection to router, but if i plug it in a working system it lits up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So i guess that makes for two bugs?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>Am 16.04.2012 11:01, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Morgan Leijstr&#246;m skrev 16.4.2012 09:44:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> s&#246;ndagen den 15 april 2012 16.04.24 skrev Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 15.04.2012 13:58, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a laptop with toast ethernet NIC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A couple weeks ago i tried booting network install boot.iso and use intel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2200BG interface, but i think it it looks like one file was missing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you try boot-nonfree.iso? It should contain nonfree firmware and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drivers for such cases.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, and i saw no difference at all; both interfaces fail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trouble for most (if not almost all) wireless usage is that we would need to
+</I>&gt;<i> know how to find and connect to the wireless AP and enter passwords etc, and
+</I>&gt;<i> this falls out of scope of boot.iso as it needs network access to download
+</I>&gt;<i> stage2 installer where this could be done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Uhmm, maybe i didn't understand something, but what
+would be the point then to have some wireless firmwares
+in boot-nonfree.iso ?
+&gt;<i> boot*.iso is supposed to stay small for local lan installs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we start adding more code to boot*.iso, it becomes the same as dual &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> livecds. what could/should be done is to add possibility to load nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware from additional local media to stage1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Possibly it do not even power up the PC-card as leds never lit up to confirm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the connection to router, but if i plug it in a working system it lits up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So i guess that makes for two bugs?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>16.04.2012 22:24, Florian Hubold skrev:
+&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2012 11:01, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trouble for most (if not almost all) wireless usage is that we would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know how to find and connect to the wireless AP and enter passwords etc, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this falls out of scope of boot.iso as it needs network access to download
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stage2 installer where this could be done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uhmm, maybe i didn't understand something, but what
+</I>&gt;<i> would be the point then to have some wireless firmwares
+</I>&gt;<i> in boot-nonfree.iso ?
+</I>
+not much for now, the iwl packages I have added is in order to test what
+can be done... but that is still wip....
+
+But it also carries kernel-firmware-nonfree wich is needed for some
+disc controllers and even wired lan cards and so on...
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>m&#229;ndagen den 16 april 2012 11.01.15 skrev Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Morgan Leijstr&#246;m skrev 16.4.2012 09:44:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; s&#246;ndagen den 15 april 2012 16.04.24 skrev Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 15.04.2012 13:58, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have a laptop with toast ethernet NIC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; A couple weeks ago i tried booting network install boot.iso and use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; intel 2200BG interface, but i think it it looks like one file was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; missing.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Did you try boot-nonfree.iso? It should contain nonfree firmware and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; drivers for such cases.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, and i saw no difference at all; both interfaces fail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trouble for most (if not almost all) wireless usage is that we would
+</I>&gt;<i> need to know how to find and connect to the wireless AP and enter
+</I>&gt;<i> passwords etc, and this falls out of scope of boot.iso as it needs
+</I>&gt;<i> network access to download stage2 installer where this could be done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> boot*.iso is supposed to stay small for local lan installs.
+</I>
+If wireless is not supposed to be supported it is possible to strip it to
+smaller size. Now it seem half baked or bugged as it tries and fail.
+
+
+ Great, i see info linked from download page, Good work :)
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media#Network_Installs">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media#Network_Installs</A>
+But more info about what the alternatives are
+supposed to support would be nice.
+Maybe i should try all.img?
+
+And in <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Boot.iso_install">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Boot.iso_install</A> :
+&quot;there are still issues with bringing up the network and with drivers for WLAN
+cards (although in cauldron we have a boot-nonfree.iso that contains
+proprietary drivers, so this might change in future).&quot;
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> If we start adding more code to boot*.iso, it becomes the same as dual &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> livecds.
+</I>
+LiveCD was my second option but they were then not available...
+
+Dual arch do not contain proprietary drivers.
+
+
+Also, my situation is that I as many other users, have limited data transfer
+per month, so i try to download as little as possible, use urpmi-proxy, and
+normal internet proxy.
+
+Maybe there should be a mini-live, that boots up to LXDE desktop (or similar),
+english only, only simple text editor, mcc drakxtools, etc, gparted, and all
+possible drivers for NICs and graphics. ( no office packages, picture tools,
+games...)
+
+I guess a serieously stripped down variant of the normal Live iso would be
+less work than getting the currently non working boot-nonfree.iso, and
+maintain it ?
+
+
+&gt;<i> what could/should be done is to add possibility to load nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware from additional local media to stage1
+</I>
+I am pretty certain i saw that option during boot
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Possibly it do not even power up the PC-card as leds never lit up to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; confirm the connection to router, but if i plug it in a working system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it lits up.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So i guess that makes for two bugs?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+--
+Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+&gt;<i> 16.04.2012 22:24, Florian Hubold skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2012 11:01, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Trouble for most (if not almost all) wireless usage is that we would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> know how to find and connect to the wireless AP and enter passwords etc, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this falls out of scope of boot.iso as it needs network access to download
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stage2 installer where this could be done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Uhmm, maybe i didn't understand something, but what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be the point then to have some wireless firmwares
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in boot-nonfree.iso ?
+</I>&gt;<i> not much for now, the iwl packages I have added is in order to test what
+</I>&gt;<i> can be done... but that is still wip....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But it also carries kernel-firmware-nonfree wich is needed for some
+</I>&gt;<i> disc controllers and even wired lan cards and so on...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, and radeon firmware, i know. Thanks for that! ;)
+I was just asking about the wireless part, to be clear.
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