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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ <I>Sat Mar 10 21:52:24 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>07.03.2012 18:46, Juergen Harms kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Upgrading to KDE 4.8.1 I realised that substantial time is lost
+</I>&gt;<i> downloading fat handbooks that I do not need.
+</I>
+Note that installation of handbooks is not new, they were simply
+previously bundled with the main software packages and they have now
+been splitted to separate packages.
+
+I don't really agree that splitting is useful here, though, but I'm not
+the KDE maintainer (or maybe I'm missing something)...
+
+&gt;<i> After taking a closer look, I threw out 65 handbooks which I never asked
+</I>&gt;<i> for and which I do not need. Looking into the details of this flood (rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> -q with a filter for handbooks), the following facts become clear
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the upgrade to kde 4.8.1 added the 4.8.1 handbooks without
+</I>&gt;<i> uninstalling the corresponding 4.8.0 versions
+</I>
+I don't see any duplicates. I do see many 4.8.0 handbooks but those are
+simply not upgraded yet, there is no handbook that has both 4.8.0+4.8.1
+version installed.
+
+&gt;<i> - I am getting (lots of) handbooks for games, where the games themselves
+</I>&gt;<i> are not installed (I use a minimum install, nevertheless get some games
+</I>&gt;<i> which I remove with urpme kdegames4 - I suspect that this forgets to
+</I>&gt;<i> remove the corresponding handbooks).
+</I>
+Correct, only &quot;--auto-orphans&quot; will remove the leftover handbooks. This
+is a bug, the handbooks should depend on the packages that actually
+contain the software, but they do not.
+
+&gt;<i> - I am getting (non-requested) kde-l10n-handbooks for french, german and
+</I>&gt;<i> en_GB, probably due to the fact that these languages are specified in
+</I>&gt;<i> the kde locale (languages tab) - to support spellchecking and
+</I>&gt;<i> hyphenation, that should not trigger the handbooks
+</I>
+This one I'm unsure of, as I don't see why kde-l10n-handbooks packages
+are supposed to get installed in the first place... I'm probably missing
+something.
+
+&gt;<i> This is (a) a multiplicator for the time spent downloading and
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrading, and (b) a substantial waste of storage.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I used urpmi --auto-orphans (no negative effects) to get rid of the
+</I>&gt;<i> major part of this flood.
+</I>
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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