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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006641.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006641.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e1a98c3cf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006641.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6adJv0%3DbXo%2B0Bnb6sxoGaN10Qmnb6mkL7CjFgjMdqztQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006642.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>e-letter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6adJv0%3DbXo%2B0Bnb6sxoGaN10Qmnb6mkL7CjFgjMdqztQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">inpost at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 00:10:08 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006642.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6641">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6641">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6641">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6641">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 06/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Message: 3 +</I>><i> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:47:01 +0000 +</I>><i> From: WALKER RICHARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Quick answer; yes +</I>><i> +</I>><i> man ifconfig should get you started. From memory you can set an +</I>><i> address for an ethernet card with something like; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.22 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That implicitly brings up the connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This much is already working for you as you say both PCs can reach the +</I>><i> internet. So let's take a step back. I don't want you to "publish" +</I>><i> your PC addresses, but if they are both on the same network then they +</I>><i> should both have addresses in the private network ranges. The most +</I>><i> common on routers are; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 10.?.?.? +</I>><i> 192.168.?.? +</I>><i> +</I> +command terminal 'ifconfig' returns value for eth1, '192...', but not '10...'. + +><i> +</I>><i> Can you configure your router? Do you know if it has a web-based +</I>><i> configuration address? If you haven't come across this before, this is +</I>><i> a "web page" generated by your router which provides access to its +</I>><i> configuration by means of forms on web pages. It is normally accessed +</I>><i> by entering the address in your browser, but this cannot easily work +</I>><i> if your PC and your router are on different networks, with different +</I>><i> address ranges. For example, the router might be on 192.168.1.1 and +</I>><i> your PC is on a.b.x.x where a and b are NOT 192 and 168. +</I>><i> +</I> +yes, there is a configuration address '<A HREF="http://192...">http://192...</A>' accessible via +web browser. + +><i> Let us take one more step back. When you configured your network on +</I>><i> each computer (using MCC?) did you opt for manual or automatic (via +</I>><i> DHCP) configuration of the network address? That, I think, is the key +</I>><i> starting point. +</I>><i> +</I> +automatic dhcp. To check, the command 'drakconnect' was used to +activate the network configuration process; the default is automatic +ip (bootp/dchp) connection protocol + +><i> If it is manual then you chose the addresses and typed them in. If it +</I>><i> is automatic (via DHCP) then they will have been allocated by EITHER +</I>><i> your router (which seems unlikely given the trouble your having) OR by +</I>><i> your ISP, and that means they are permitting you to have more than one +</I>><i> public address for your location AND that the address really is +</I>><i> public; if I knew your address I could probe your network - that is +</I>><i> potentially highly risky and is why the common practice, in these +</I>><i> parts, is for each subscriber to get one public address and have the +</I>><i> modem/router provide NAT for private networks on the premises. +</I>><i> +</I> +I think the ip address is determined by the isp; if the router is +switched off and then on, a new ip address is assigned. + +><i> I hope I haven't confused the issue. Let me re-state the important +</I>><i> questions: +</I>><i> 1. Are your PC addresses similar to each other? +</I> +yes, they differ by a digit + +><i> 2. Are they in the private network range? (10.?.?.? or 192.168.?.?) +</I> +yes, 192... + +><i> 3. Do you have the make and model of your router? (yes/no will do for now.) +</I>><i> +</I> +yes +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006642.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6641">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6641">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6641">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6641">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006642.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006642.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ff0d8aaf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006642.html @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFvS%2B00fCRk_Q%3DA37KfmAx%3DDxrRbJOmY_JYOOvLNw_40A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006641.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006643.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>WALKER RICHARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFvS%2B00fCRk_Q%3DA37KfmAx%3DDxrRbJOmY_JYOOvLNw_40A%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 00:41:02 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006641.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006643.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6642">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6642">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6642">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6642">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>OK, you have two PCs on a private network with addresses in the range +192.168.?.?. + +You reported only 192.?.?.? If that is accurate then the addresses are +public, meaning if I knew what they are then I could reach them from +here. + +Forgive me if I tell you things you already know. IP networks are +defined by their address. My home network, for example, has been +defined by me to occupy only addresses in the range 192.168.0.0 to +192.168.0.255. These are only 256 of the 65536 addresses available. My +network has no awareness of the possibility of other addresses because +I have not configured it. My router's configuration web address is +192.168.1.1, but that is not within my network, so even though I am +physically connected to it, its address is inaccessible to me. + +Technically, my network's routing table has no information on how to +reach 192.168.1.1 and by definition (it is private, remember) there is +no way to reach it via the public network - it simply does not exist +there. + +So, if your router and each of your PCs share the first two octets of +the address (192 and 168) and your network mask is 255.255.0.0 then +any address in the range 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.255.253 (or +thereabouts) is valid for your network. + +Let's check your network mask so we know the extent of your private +network. Use the ifconfig command in a console (you might need to be +root for this) and look for the line in the output for your eth? +interface which looks something like this; + +inet addr:192.168.0.111 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 + +You can see on mine that the mask is 255.255.255.0 which means that +only the eight bits of the final octet can be used on my network for +unique addresses - 0 to 255. So what is your network mask? + +On 06/03/2012, e-letter <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">inpost at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 06/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Message: 3 +</I>>><i> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:47:01 +0000 +</I>>><i> From: WALKER RICHARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Quick answer; yes +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> man ifconfig should get you started. From memory you can set an +</I>>><i> address for an ethernet card with something like; +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.22 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That implicitly brings up the connection. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This much is already working for you as you say both PCs can reach the +</I>>><i> internet. So let's take a step back. I don't want you to "publish" +</I>>><i> your PC addresses, but if they are both on the same network then they +</I>>><i> should both have addresses in the private network ranges. The most +</I>>><i> common on routers are; +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 10.?.?.? +</I>>><i> 192.168.?.? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> command terminal 'ifconfig' returns value for eth1, '192...', but not +</I>><i> '10...'. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Can you configure your router? Do you know if it has a web-based +</I>>><i> configuration address? If you haven't come across this before, this is +</I>>><i> a "web page" generated by your router which provides access to its +</I>>><i> configuration by means of forms on web pages. It is normally accessed +</I>>><i> by entering the address in your browser, but this cannot easily work +</I>>><i> if your PC and your router are on different networks, with different +</I>>><i> address ranges. For example, the router might be on 192.168.1.1 and +</I>>><i> your PC is on a.b.x.x where a and b are NOT 192 and 168. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, there is a configuration address '<A HREF="http://192...">http://192...</A>' accessible via +</I>><i> web browser. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Let us take one more step back. When you configured your network on +</I>>><i> each computer (using MCC?) did you opt for manual or automatic (via +</I>>><i> DHCP) configuration of the network address? That, I think, is the key +</I>>><i> starting point. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> automatic dhcp. To check, the command 'drakconnect' was used to +</I>><i> activate the network configuration process; the default is automatic +</I>><i> ip (bootp/dchp) connection protocol +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If it is manual then you chose the addresses and typed them in. If it +</I>>><i> is automatic (via DHCP) then they will have been allocated by EITHER +</I>>><i> your router (which seems unlikely given the trouble your having) OR by +</I>>><i> your ISP, and that means they are permitting you to have more than one +</I>>><i> public address for your location AND that the address really is +</I>>><i> public; if I knew your address I could probe your network - that is +</I>>><i> potentially highly risky and is why the common practice, in these +</I>>><i> parts, is for each subscriber to get one public address and have the +</I>>><i> modem/router provide NAT for private networks on the premises. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the ip address is determined by the isp; if the router is +</I>><i> switched off and then on, a new ip address is assigned. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I hope I haven't confused the issue. Let me re-state the important +</I>>><i> questions: +</I>>><i> 1. Are your PC addresses similar to each other? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, they differ by a digit +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 2. Are they in the private network range? (10.?.?.? or 192.168.?.?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, 192... +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 3. Do you have the make and model of your router? (yes/no will do for +</I>>><i> now.) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006641.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006643.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6642">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6642">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6642">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6642">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006643.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006643.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..93045a9f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006643.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3C4F573E36.3070601%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If that is accurate then the addresses are +</I>><i> public, meaning if I knew what they are then I could reach them from +</I>><i> here. +</I>><i> +</I> +I am being brief and anonymous; the address are 192.168... + +><i> +</I>><i> Let's check your network mask so we know the extent of your private +</I>><i> network. Use the ifconfig command in a console (you might need to be +</I>><i> root for this) and look for the line in the output for your eth? +</I>><i> interface which looks something like this; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> inet addr:192.168.0.111 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 +</I>><i> +</I> +Correct, my computers has the same 'bcast' and 'mask' addresses. + +><i> You can see on mine that the mask is 255.255.255.0 which means that +</I>><i> only the eight bits of the final octet can be used on my network for +</I>><i> unique addresses - 0 to 255. So what is your network mask? +</I>><i> +</I> +exactly the same +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006645.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006646.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6644">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6644">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6644">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6644">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006645.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006645.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a23f4589 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006645.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3C03fc01ccfc62%24d75f3fc0%24861dbf40%24%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006643.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006644.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>Cazacu Bogdan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3C03fc01ccfc62%24d75f3fc0%24861dbf40%24%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">cazacu.bogdan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 14:04:32 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006643.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006644.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wont it be simpler to post the output from ifconfig here? And aventually a traceroute output? :) +Honestly i've tried to understand what is the problem (i'm [still] guessing it's dhcp related by the looks of the problem and replies) but i'm not sure i got it... + +-----Original Message----- +From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Florian Hubold +Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:54 PM +To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + +Guys, remotely diagnosing networking problems without having all the relevant information, like the exact IP adresses (if they are from any private range of either class A, B or C networks, they're not even routable over the internet, so don't need to be anonymized) the exact internal routers adress, netmasks and maybe routing tables will just be a wild guessing back and forth. + +Also firewalls should be switched off at both client computers to rule those out. + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006643.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006644.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006646.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006646.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1757d1ac4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006646.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F579100.1050000%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006644.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006647.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F579100.1050000%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 17:46:56 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006644.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006647.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Upgrading to KDE 4.8.1 I realised that substantial time is lost +downloading fat handbooks that I do not need. + +After taking a closer look, I threw out 65 handbooks which I never asked +for and which I do not need. Looking into the details of this flood (rpm +-q with a filter for handbooks), the following facts become clear + +- the upgrade to kde 4.8.1 added the 4.8.1 handbooks without +uninstalling the corresponding 4.8.0 versions +- I am getting (lots of) handbooks for games, where the games themselves +are not installed (I use a minimum install, nevertheless get some games +which I remove with urpme kdegames4 - I suspect that this forgets to +remove the corresponding handbooks). +- I am getting (non-requested) kde-l10n-handbooks for french, german and +en_GB, probably due to the fact that these languages are specified in +the kde locale (languages tab) - to support spellchecking and +hyphenation, that should not trigger the handbooks + +This is (a) a multiplicator for the time spent downloading and +upgrading, and (b) a substantial waste of storage. + +I used urpmi --auto-orphans (no negative effects) to get rid of the +major part of this flood. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006644.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006647.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006647.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006647.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..01b0f77e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/006647.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router%28Tony%20Blackwell%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F57B510.2040805%40bigpond.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006646.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell)</H1> + <B>Tony Blackwell</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router%28Tony%20Blackwell%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F57B510.2040805%40bigpond.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell)">tablackwell at bigpond.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 20:20:48 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006646.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Another brief contribution, a bit apart from the current sequence. (I +am not a network expert, which may well show in what follows!) + +I have 2 ethernet ports in each PC, use the router DHCP-assigned +192.168.x.x addresses for one network of ports which can see the router, +and a separate-wired network on the other set of ethernet ports using a +different numbering scheme which I assign manually, i.e. hard-coded, to +see each other. Also have the printer on this second network. Keeps it +isolated from the net, lets me have full security on the ports with net +connection and relaxed security on the internal network. The hard-coded +addresses on my internal network are all in /etc/hosts. + +One curious thing I found with pretty much every mandriva and mageia +distribution is that regardless of what I say during initial +installation, I need to fix up etc/hosts which usually has a double +entry for 127.0.0.1 "localdomain.localhost localhost" and another line +of "127.0.0.1 mypc.mynet.au mypc" rather than the hardcoded address I +assigned that 2nd port at installation. Fixing this to the real address +I wanted that second port to have, and re-starting, fixes any +communication problems between each of my PC's + +Best of luck, +tonyb +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006646.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..088cbc6fc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120307/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 7 March 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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