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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+<PRE>On 02/23/2012 10:58 PM, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> TJ a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have to wonder though how I'll get the firmware I'll need to make an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Internet connection when I install Mageia 2 from the DVD if it's not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on there and I'm not within reach of an Ethernet cable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you do a release upgrade, you will have all your existing software
+</I>&gt;<i> available during the upgrade. It is only if you do a fresh install that
+</I>&gt;<i> the lack of wireless firmware will be problematic.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Which is why I think that at least those packages should be on the dvd.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yeah, that's the thing - I've always done a clean install (usually
+retaining /home) rather than an upgrade. I was advised to do that way
+back when I went from Mandrake 8.2 to 9.0, and the practice has served
+me well. While I hear it less often now than in the past, I have heard
+of people having troubles from an upgrade that disappeared with a clean
+install.
+
+Once I finally achieved enough extra hard drive space, I started doing a
+clean install on a separate partition for personal testing purposes
+before committing to the new release for my production install. That
+practice has also served me well, so far.
+
+TJ
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>Beta looks great, chapeau!
+
+Some issues remain
+
+- The configuration of the network interface during installation still
+does not work (failure message after &quot;Testing your connection&quot;), but at
+the first boot a correctly working network connection is there. Does
+somebody know if a bug has already been / needs to be filed on that?
+
+- Urpmi fails to mount the cdrom when trying to install additional media
+with the error message &quot;Mount point /media/cdrom does not exist&quot;.
+Work-around: insert (and mount) the DVD before launching urpmi. I have
+seen mention of this on the Dev ML - is probably been taken care of
+(looks like an aftermath of the DVD mount problem fixed during alpha).
+
+- Impossible to create media of type &quot;file&quot; - urpmi.addmedia complains
+about missing genhdlist2 (bugzilla #4690).
+
+- dbus notification message after the desktop has come up (one single
+time, no negative effects afterwards)
+ Error: service disabled
+ Error while initializing DBus
+ Disabling service
+ Did already happen in Alpha
+
+- Kde still has 2 seriously annoying problems:
+ + the active titlebar does not have the colour it should, inactive
+windows are not easily distinguishable from active windows (bugzilla #3493)
+ + impossible to move menu subdirectories to the taskbar: the
+regression that the pullup menus dont work is back (same thing as during
+the initial months of kde4) (bugzilla #3538).
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/2/25 Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Beta looks great, chapeau!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some issues remain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - The configuration of the network interface during installation still does
+</I>&gt;<i> not work (failure message after &quot;Testing your connection&quot;), but at the first
+</I>&gt;<i> boot a correctly working network connection is there. Does somebody know if
+</I>&gt;<i> a bug has already been / needs to be filed on that?
+</I>
+This a rather old one (may be even inherited from Mandriva):
+The reason for the failure is that wpa_supplicant is installed during
+wifi setup, but the daemon is not started, so the test fails. Next
+boot wpa_supplicant is started and wifi works.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452</A>
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On 02/25/2012 02:10 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> This a rather old one (may be even inherited from Mandriva):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452</A>
+</I>
+Great, no need to do bug filing. I spent this afternoon with an
+additional serious problem that concerns the udisks daemon. It makes
+locally building packages on a chroot cauldon partition (Mageia 2 beta
+1) very diffcult or impossible.
+
+Doing urpmi on the chrooted system (with packages also to be fetched
+from the install DVD), the install fails with &quot;Udisks daemon
+(udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready&quot;. I have seen several
+discussions mentioning rather similar problems, but I am not sure how
+these problems relate to each other.
+
+To a certain degree, using rpm -i is a - rather clumsy - workaround,
+When I need to install several tens of packages with dependencies from
+both the DVD and remote repositories, things become very awkward. This
+might be related to bugzilla #4649, but I still need to explore
+(installing xrandr does not help).
+
+Juergen
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+<PRE>Juergen,
+&quot;Udisks daemon (udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready&quot;
+
+That is an error I got on first boot after clean Beta 1 install which
+prevented me from using urpmi to fetch a small load of stuff missed
+during the install (namely lxdm, xrandr, leafpad).
+
+I had a quick hunt and discovered I had udisks2 and no udisks. I
+thought the error was a complaint about missing udisks, so I installed
+it through the file browser from the DVD. My urpmi problem went away
+and I thought everything was now fine, but in fact it appears that:
+1. I don't need udisks
+2. presence of udisks with udisks2 prevents correct automounting &amp;
+unmounting of floppy
+
+udisks is covered in Bug 4645. Missing lxdm is Bug 4644 and missing
+xrandr is, as you say, Bug 4649
+
+Yesterday I did a repeat fresh install, trying to keep to the same
+methods and choices. Again I had udisks2 and no udisks, but urpmi
+worked without complaint. I do not know why.
+
+Wobo,
+I hear what you say about wpa_supplicant thing and the long term
+Mandriva issue with the network failure message during install, but
+all my systems are wired ethernet and this has been happening for me
+for years. The Beta 1 install network failure is, perhaps, exploring
+new areas of users' patience as it takes a whole 118 seconds to
+complete with the bogus error message.
+
+On 25/02/2012, Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 02/25/2012 02:10 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This a rather old one (may be even inherited from Mandriva):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1452</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great, no need to do bug filing. I spent this afternoon with an
+</I>&gt;<i> additional serious problem that concerns the udisks daemon. It makes
+</I>&gt;<i> locally building packages on a chroot cauldon partition (Mageia 2 beta
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) very diffcult or impossible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doing urpmi on the chrooted system (with packages also to be fetched
+</I>&gt;<i> from the install DVD), the install fails with &quot;Udisks daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> (udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready&quot;. I have seen several
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions mentioning rather similar problems, but I am not sure how
+</I>&gt;<i> these problems relate to each other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To a certain degree, using rpm -i is a - rather clumsy - workaround,
+</I>&gt;<i> When I need to install several tens of packages with dependencies from
+</I>&gt;<i> both the DVD and remote repositories, things become very awkward. This
+</I>&gt;<i> might be related to bugzilla #4649, but I still need to explore
+</I>&gt;<i> (installing xrandr does not help).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Re the udisk problem
+
+I see a little bit clearer: it looks as if udisk2
+
+- does not work when I chroot (as it happens) from a Mageia 1 system
+into cauldron (beta1)
+
+- does work flawlessly when I boot into the cauldron system; but this
+cauldron system is really a minimum system, no desktop, no gtk (I want
+to use it to clarify a BuildRequires problem): it only gives me a
+command-line console, chroot would be much more comfortable (having
+filesystems mounted on both systems and having all the comfort of guis
+for editing and consulting documents on the base system).
+
+I guess (can somebody confirm, please), that it must be possible to do
+unrestricted urpmi with chroot (both DVD and remote repositories) and
+that this is probably a plain bug: udisk2 does not work with chroot. I
+had done a first try (before I came to this clear working hypothesis)
+and had installed - udisk (udisk2? I do not remember) - to no avail. But
+that had, trying what-if stuff, gone a little out of hand, and I now
+started on a new minimum system.
+
+I just tried to do a chroot into my old Mageia 1 Alpha file-system -
+which is a full install, with desktop and all and which runs OK: same
+udisk error message there, hence probably not a problem specific to
+minimum installs.
+
+All this is quite time-consuming, booting all over the place, remaking
+systems, I am a little bit frustrated. But, before crying &quot;bug&quot; I should
+still repeat the entire thing once more.
+
+How does this relate to bugzilla #4645 - do you want to have this
+discussion there?
+
+Juergen
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+<PRE>I'm pretty sure I don't know how this relates to 4645, but I have a
+gut feeling that there is a link somewhere.
+Perceived Problem 1: we have hal, usdisks 1 and 2 pushing and shoving
+each other in the scramble to manage fixed and removable storage.
+Perceived Problem 2: a manifestation of this we have both seen in
+connection with trying to use urpmi after a fresh install. I have to
+say that I think my first guess was wrong; this is probably unrelated
+to udisks (1) because with only udisks2 installed, the error message
+can only have come from a udisks2-related script or binary.
+Actual Problem 3: I do not know what tools are thought to be essential
+for managing storage devices and I don't know why urpmi should be
+trying to use one when all I am trying to do is get a mirror list from
+t'internet.
+
+So I suppose the only point of similarity is that we both got the same
+error message from two different setups.
+
+Richard
+
+On 25/02/2012, Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Re the udisk problem
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see a little bit clearer: it looks as if udisk2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - does not work when I chroot (as it happens) from a Mageia 1 system
+</I>&gt;<i> into cauldron (beta1)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - does work flawlessly when I boot into the cauldron system; but this
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron system is really a minimum system, no desktop, no gtk (I want
+</I>&gt;<i> to use it to clarify a BuildRequires problem): it only gives me a
+</I>&gt;<i> command-line console, chroot would be much more comfortable (having
+</I>&gt;<i> filesystems mounted on both systems and having all the comfort of guis
+</I>&gt;<i> for editing and consulting documents on the base system).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess (can somebody confirm, please), that it must be possible to do
+</I>&gt;<i> unrestricted urpmi with chroot (both DVD and remote repositories) and
+</I>&gt;<i> that this is probably a plain bug: udisk2 does not work with chroot. I
+</I>&gt;<i> had done a first try (before I came to this clear working hypothesis)
+</I>&gt;<i> and had installed - udisk (udisk2? I do not remember) - to no avail. But
+</I>&gt;<i> that had, trying what-if stuff, gone a little out of hand, and I now
+</I>&gt;<i> started on a new minimum system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just tried to do a chroot into my old Mageia 1 Alpha file-system -
+</I>&gt;<i> which is a full install, with desktop and all and which runs OK: same
+</I>&gt;<i> udisk error message there, hence probably not a problem specific to
+</I>&gt;<i> minimum installs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All this is quite time-consuming, booting all over the place, remaking
+</I>&gt;<i> systems, I am a little bit frustrated. But, before crying &quot;bug&quot; I should
+</I>&gt;<i> still repeat the entire thing once more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does this relate to bugzilla #4645 - do you want to have this
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion there?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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