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Looking at the results, I am surprised +</I>><i> about the clear language they speak. +</I> +I'm not surprised at all. :) The results are what I've been reading in +the forums all over the last years. + +><i> It is now time that Wobo digests the result of the poll into his report: +</I>><i> that is where the discussion should resume - gives time to sharpen the +</I>><i> knifes! +</I> +Well, after the "feedback" received here I'm afraid the discussion +will focus more on the the poll itself than on the results. Reading +Olav's last 2 paragraphs (especially the one where he only wants +feedback from "the people from the mailing list instead of all users") +tells something, I wonder how those other users in the forum will take +that. But that's not my turf (not any more). + +The poll ends tomorrow, results will be reported. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006380.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006380.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006380.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..df0375d57 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006380.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CUH.SE/%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006379.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006381.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CUH.SE/%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 11:38:38 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006379.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:50:16AM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CA+h4nj4EwCO4ApLnP2pLQeeZyYX_bZMCHY6iDkF_vKNg-2jiyg at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i>Reading Olav's last 2 paragraphs (especially the one where he only wants +</I>><i>feedback from "the people from the mailing list instead of all users") +</I>><i>tells something, I wonder how those other users in the forum will take +</I>><i>that. But that's not my turf (not any more). +</I> +Not wishing to take any sides in this, I think you have misunderstood what +Olav wrote and derived the wrong conclusion from it. + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120130/bdcc87bb/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006379.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006381.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006381.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8272662e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006381.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7Z9ShmSGQA0_8Sz0J-GpBw81fbm8z2NCd64i6C%3DLMFFQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006380.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006382.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7Z9ShmSGQA0_8Sz0J-GpBw81fbm8z2NCd64i6C%3DLMFFQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 12:27:41 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006380.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6381">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6381">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6381">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6381">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/1/30 Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +><i> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:50:16AM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CA+h4nj4EwCO4ApLnP2pLQeeZyYX_bZMCHY6iDkF_vKNg-2jiyg at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Reading Olav's last 2 paragraphs (especially the one where he only wants +</I>>><i> feedback from "the people from the mailing list instead of all users") +</I>>><i> tells something, I wonder how those other users in the forum will take +</I>>><i> that. But that's not my turf (not any more). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not wishing to take any sides in this, I think you have misunderstood what +</I>><i> Olav wrote and derived the wrong conclusion from it. +</I> +He wants feedback about something but only from users of the mailing +list and not from all users. I wonder what I could have misunderstood +in this sentence. I may understand what he means (something like: +users of this list are better suited to give usable feedback). But +unfortunately Mageia users are ALL users so you have to deal with all +users, calling for feedback from a certain group only (especially if +it is probably the smaller part) is wrong - that's what I did wrong +initially with the poll in the forum and that's why I extended the +call for the poll to the mailing list. I expect developers to have +this insight as well. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006380.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6381">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6381">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6381">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6381">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006382.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006382.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1f8c2574f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006382.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CUJ.9cC%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006381.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006383.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CUJ.9cC%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 12:40:03 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6382">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6382">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6382">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6382">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:27:41PM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +<CA+h4nj7Z9ShmSGQA0_8Sz0J-GpBw81fbm8z2NCd64i6C=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">LMFFQ at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +><i>2012/1/30 Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:50:16AM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CA+h4nj4EwCO4ApLnP2pLQeeZyYX_bZMCHY6iDkF_vKNg-2jiyg at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Reading Olav's last 2 paragraphs (especially the one where he only wants +</I>>>><i> feedback from "the people from the mailing list instead of all users") +</I>>>><i> tells something, I wonder how those other users in the forum will take +</I>>>><i> that. But that's not my turf (not any more). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not wishing to take any sides in this, I think you have misunderstood what +</I>>><i> Olav wrote and derived the wrong conclusion from it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>He wants feedback about something but only from users of the mailing +</I>><i>list and not from all users. I wonder what I could have misunderstood +</I>><i>in this sentence. I may understand what he means (something like: +</I>><i>users of this list are better suited to give usable feedback). But +</I>><i>unfortunately Mageia users are ALL users so you have to deal with all +</I>><i>users, calling for feedback from a certain group only (especially if +</I>><i>it is probably the smaller part) is wrong - that's what I did wrong +</I>><i>initially with the poll in the forum and that's why I extended the +</I>><i>call for the poll to the mailing list. I expect developers to have +</I>><i>this insight as well. +</I> +As I read it, he finds the poll itself too vague to be of much use to him +(personally), and would love to hear on concrete things that can be +improved upon. Such feedback *can* come from just discussion on this list, +not *should* / *must*. I understood this to mean that we don't have to +actively reach out to *everyone* and that a smaller list of concrete +points of improvement might be a good starting point. + +I don't think Olav said or suggested in any way that the opinion of users +on this list is of greater value or importance to him than that of users +who only read and write on the forum. + +Cheers, + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120130/27d44cb8/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6382">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6382">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6382">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6382">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006383.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006383.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..167ded105 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006383.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5cfcjL4kKPRzKUYQB-qLLxaavqUNSmCQUY-kO_4pk72Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006382.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006384.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BPoll%5D%20What%20are%20your%20top%20requirements%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5cfcjL4kKPRzKUYQB-qLLxaavqUNSmCQUY-kO_4pk72Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 13:56:36 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/1/30 Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +><i> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:27:41PM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +</I>><i> <CA+h4nj7Z9ShmSGQA0_8Sz0J-GpBw81fbm8z2NCd64i6C=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">LMFFQ at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 2012/1/30 Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:50:16AM +0100, Wolfgang wrote in +</I>>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CA+h4nj4EwCO4ApLnP2pLQeeZyYX_bZMCHY6iDkF_vKNg-2jiyg at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Reading Olav's last 2 paragraphs (especially the one where he only wants +</I>>>>><i> feedback from "the people from the mailing list instead of all users") +</I>>>>><i> tells something, I wonder how those other users in the forum will take +</I>>>>><i> that. But that's not my turf (not any more). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Not wishing to take any sides in this, I think you have misunderstood +</I>>>><i> what +</I>>>><i> Olav wrote and derived the wrong conclusion from it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> He wants feedback about something but only from users of the mailing +</I>>><i> list and not from all users. I wonder what I could have misunderstood +</I>>><i> in this sentence. I may understand what he means (something like: +</I>>><i> users of this list are better suited to give usable feedback). But +</I>>><i> unfortunately Mageia users are ALL users so you have to deal with all +</I>>><i> users, calling for feedback from a certain group only (especially if +</I>>><i> it is probably the smaller part) is wrong - that's what I did wrong +</I>>><i> initially with the poll in the forum and that's why I extended the +</I>>><i> call for the poll to the mailing list. I expect developers to have +</I>>><i> this insight as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I read it, he finds the poll itself too vague to be of much use to him +</I>><i> (personally), and would love to hear on concrete things that can be improved +</I>><i> upon. +</I> +No problem, he is free to start polls he may find more useful and +ignore this one. And certainly I do not deny him his opinion how +usefui or useless this poll is to him. + +><i> Such feedback *can* come from just discussion on this list, not +</I>><i> *should* / *must*. I understood this to mean that we don't have to actively +</I>><i> reach out to *everyone* and that a smaller list of concrete points of +</I>><i> improvement might be a good starting point. +</I> +Yes to the "smaller list of concrete points" - that will be a +different poll then. I chose to start a poll about the more general +picture. Also "Yes" to the selection of a certain group of users if +the topic of the poll only concerns this certain group, like "Should +we switch back to sysvinit or go on with systemd?" (just an example) +because this would be better discussed in a technical interested group +of users. But a definite "No" to leaving out a large part of users in +polls about general matters, which is what I started and what is +discussed here. + +><i> I don't think Olav said or suggested in any way that the opinion of users on +</I>><i> this list is of greater value or importance to him than that of users who +</I>><i> only read and write on the forum. +</I> +If meant as I wrote in the previous paragraph then I agree. But then +it is not relevant for this poll. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006384.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006384.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b1fe72d92 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006384.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Can%27t%20access%20floppy%20drive&In-Reply-To=%3Cjg71v3%2473j%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006383.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006385.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive</H1> + <B>Paul Simon</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Can%27t%20access%20floppy%20drive&In-Reply-To=%3Cjg71v3%2473j%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive">psimon at sonic.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 22:26:47 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006385.html">[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I see from your note that it has not been answered yet. I have the same +problem with both Mandriva and Mageia but am not as advanced in Linux as you +are. Let's hope there is someone smarter than we are who can help us, and +then add the few lines of code so that we who still use floppies can +continue in our old ways. + +Paul Simon +"TJ" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andrewsfarm at gmail.com</A>> wrote in message +news:jg1nen$4r8$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">1 at dough.gmane.org...</A> +><i>A Gnome user brought this up on a.o.l.mageia and a.o.l.mandriva. The issue, +</I>><i>apparently, affects both distros. Both of us are using the 32-bit Mageia 1. +</I>><i>I can't speak for him, but here is my problem: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't do it often at all, but what I'd like to be able to do is have +</I>><i> Dolphin detect when I put a floppy in the drive and add that to the Places +</I>><i> panel, just as it now does when I put a CD or DVD in one of those drives. +</I>><i> As it is now, when I put a floppy in the drive, nothing happens. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> lsmod shows that the floppy module is present. My fstab shows this for the +</I>><i> floppy: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto +</I>>><i> umask=0,users,iocharset=utf8,noauto,exec,flush 0 0 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can't even seem to be able to mount it by hand. $ mount /media/floppy +</I>><i> appears to work. At least, the drive spins and the busy LED comes on for a +</I>><i> while, then goes off. But, nothing shows in /media/floppy, and if I give +</I>><i> the mount command again without unmounting the drive, it still works. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But, $ mount /media/floppy; mount /media/floppy results in these error +</I>><i> messages: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> mount: /dev/fd0 already mounted or /media/floppy busy +</I>>><i> mount: according to mtab, /dev/fd0 is already mounted on /media/floppy +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But if I look at mtab, the floppy isn't there. And giving the mount +</I>><i> command again, on a separate line, produces no errors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's as if the drive is mounted, then unmounted almost immediately. Or as +</I>><i> if the driver didn't allow enough time for the disk to be read before +</I>><i> deciding it couldn't be mounted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW, Windows XP, on the same hardware and with the same floppy, has no +</I>><i> problem with access. This is an old-style floppy drive, connected to the +</I>><i> motherboard. It is not usb. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any ideas? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> TJ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006385.html">[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006385.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006385.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..83c77df6b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/006385.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Servers%20downtime%20scheduled%20from%20Feb.%201%20to%202%20for%0A%09maintenance&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwtErBnO1qbMY3oGXkbObrN8XHwtYbuHY_v67RP35zFvrA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006384.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Servers%20downtime%20scheduled%20from%20Feb.%201%20to%202%20for%0A%09maintenance&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwtErBnO1qbMY3oGXkbObrN8XHwtYbuHY_v67RP35zFvrA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 30 23:19:02 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello everyone, + +some Mageia servers will be down from Wednesday Feb. 1st to Thursday +Feb. 2nd for maintenance. Particularly, the following services will be +unavailable: +- our LDAP/user identity db, +- build system, +- Bugzilla, +- all mailing-lists hosted on ml.mageia.org, +- Wiki, +- forums. + +So... not all, but, a lot of what you use here! The exact hours of +interruption are not known, so expect no availability for those 2 full +days. + +Blog (where an equivalent warning will be posted), Web site, +mailing-lists (and archives) will not be down. + +In the meantime, in our Marseille data center, 4 of our sysadmin team +(dams, boklm, rtp and misc in this case) will do nothing less than: + - upgrade servers to Mageia 1, + - replace broken HDD, + - add SSD in build nodes, + - install our ARM build system, + - install a dedicated server for backups, + - install a dedicated server for QA and packagers. + +All hardware purchased thanks to what Mageia.Org received from so many +donators (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/thank-you/">http://mageia.org/en/thank-you/</A> again). + +This is quite a short notice, we apologize for this. Thank you for +your comprehension (and please spread the info to your list/team if +relevant). +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff4959b2f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 30 January 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>30 January 2012 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 10:50:16 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:02 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 7<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="006379.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? 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+</A><A NAME="6379"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006380.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6380"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6381"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6382"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6383"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A><A NAME="6384"> </A> +<I>Paul Simon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006385.html">[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance +</A><A NAME="6385"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:02 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:48 CET 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..48fd03ce3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120130/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 30 January 2012 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>30 January 2012 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 10:50:16 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:02 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 7<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01327917016- --> +<LI><A HREF="006379.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6379"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01327917016-01327919918- --> +<LI><A HREF="006380.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6380"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01327917016-01327919918-01327922861- --> +<LI><A HREF="006381.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6381"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01327917016-01327919918-01327922861-01327923603- --> +<LI><A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6382"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<!--3 01327917016-01327919918-01327922861-01327923603-01327928196- --> +<LI><A HREF="006383.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A><A NAME="6383"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01327958807- --> +<LI><A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A><A NAME="6384"> </A> +<I>Paul Simon +</I> + +<!--0 01327961942- --> +<LI><A HREF="006385.html">[Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2 for maintenance +</A><A NAME="6385"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:02 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 30 23:19:48 CET 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |