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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Boot loader advice please</H1>
+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Boot loader advice please">annew at kde.org
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+ <I>Wed Aug 29 11:08:38 CEST 2012</I>
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+On 29/08/12 09:03, blind Pete wrote:
+&gt;<i> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:37:54 +0100 Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 28/08/12 13:12, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday 28 Aug 2012 07:01 my mailbox was graced by a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> message from Anne Wilson who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm currently installing M2 as a dual boot onto sdd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When all data is transferred to the new disk, sda, sdb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and sdc will be removed. I assume that writing the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loader (language fails me, at the moment) to sdd is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fine? I know it's a very basic question - brain is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only half-functioning just now due to external
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pressures. (sda has the old entry.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just wanting confirmation that the existence of the old
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> grub won't cause any problems :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately, it does cause problems - of course sda is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> checked before sdd. I assume that I will now need somehow
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> get rid of the grub on sda - what's the best way to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that? Faint bells are ringing - about re-ordering disks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but in these days of using disk IDs I'm not sure whether
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the old ways are still valid, and I really don't want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> screw things up to the point where recovery is a very big
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> job. I'd appreciate thoughts from a mind that is calmer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and clearer than mine :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can you change the boot order in BIOS ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That sounded a good idea. It's so long since I did things like
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this that I had forgotten it altogether. However....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have installed M1 on an EeePC, with MSW on the bult-in HD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and M1 on a SD; just reassigned the HD order and the boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> order, and all is well, boots from the SD and offers me the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The only complication is when I change SD to install and try
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> out another OS, I then have to remember to reset the HD and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> boot order in the BIOS or it directly boots Windows from the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> HD ;-3(.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia appeared to be starting up, but when it came to logging
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in, it couldn't find the home directories (separate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> partition).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIR, on some PCs, changing boot order will also change drive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> naming (the BIOS really changes the enumeration order of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> devices). So if you didn't use a &quot;smart&quot; scheme for your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/fstab entries, like UUID= or LABEL= mounting, mounting those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> partitions will fail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to be horribly awkward, installers, boot loaders and operating
+</I>&gt;<i> systems can discover things in different orders. This can be much
+</I>&gt;<i> worse if you connect and disconnect bits of hardware. There might
+</I>&gt;<i> even be spinup delays depending on whether there is a hot boot or
+</I>&gt;<i> a cold boot. (Some BIOSes allow for a time delay on some hard
+</I>&gt;<i> drives to lessen the startup current.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Worst case is you have to arrange the hardware then install, but if
+</I>&gt;<i> you know which boot sector the BIOS is going to look at you can
+</I>&gt;<i> problably sort out fstab and the boot loader after installation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's what I'm going to do. I'm following Gary's advice, and
+re-installing with only the new drive attached - which is what I had
+to do to get Windows installed. I'll mount the others from fstab
+later if I need to. Other than that, I have a dock and usb HD
+enclosures, so I've plenty ways of getting to the data. It's just not
+worth fighting to do it a particular way.
+
+Thanks for the help, everyone.
+
+Anne
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