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+ <B>bascule</B>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 13 December 2011 07:25:27 Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 13 December 2011 08:01, bascule wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; firewall -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Error: No firewall rules in IPv4 INPUT chain and policy is set to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ACCEPT. firewall: ERROR
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Instead of &quot;ERROR&quot;, shouldn't this simply state that the Firewall is Off?
+</I>&gt;<i> And why is that an Error? On some systems and circumstances, like a local
+</I>&gt;<i> internal network (often behind NAT), a firewall is deliberately diaabled,
+</I>&gt;<i> and is therefore not an Error.
+</I>still struggling with these errors, after correcting some of the permisions
+where the fix was stated the next msec check promptly contradicted itslef by
+saying i should change them back, the following two system emails have just
+been produced by msec:
+1.
+---------------
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /proc to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/samba/cores/smbd to 600
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/sshd_config to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /etc/ssh/sshd_config to 640
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /home/bascule to 751
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/samba/cores/nmbd to 600
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub to adm
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/dmesg to 640
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/messages to 640
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/lastlog to 640
+WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/rpmpkgs to 640
+--------------
+2.
+-----------------
+openssh -&gt;
+ Warning: Wrong permissions on regular file &quot;/etc/ssh/sshd_config&quot;: 640 (sshd
+configuration file, required permissions are 600)
+ Error: Missing file or directory: &quot;/var/empty/sshd&quot; (directory used by sshd
+during privilege separation in the pre-authentication phase)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key&quot;
+(sshd private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub&quot;
+(sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key&quot; (sshd
+private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub&quot;
+(sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key&quot;
+(sshd private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub&quot;
+(sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+ openssh: ERROR
+
+ogfiles -&gt;
+ Error: File /var/log/lastlog has wrong permssions! The correct permissions
+are 644.
+ Error: File /var/log/messages has wrong permssions! The correct
+permissions are 600.
+ logfiles: ERROR
+-------------
+as you can see the contents of 1 contradict the contents of 2 but both are
+produced by the msec cron jobs that run about 4am, i must be alone in this
+error since i can't imagine it being widespread and not reported before,
+therefore my install must be unique somehow and the only candidate in my mind
+is my not formatting /var when i did the install, only surely that's not
+uncommon?
+
+bascule
+--
+&quot;In a word -- im-possible!&quot;
+&quot;That's two words,&quot; said Dibbler.
+(Moving Pictures)
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+ <B>Simon Parsons</B>
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+ <I>Wed Dec 14 09:16:24 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 14/12/2011 04:19, bascule wrote:
+as you can see the contents of 1 contradict the contents of 2 but both are
+&gt;<i> produced by the msec cron jobs that run about 4am, i must be alone in this
+</I>&gt;<i> error since i can't imagine it being widespread and not reported before,
+</I>&gt;<i> therefore my install must be unique somehow and the only candidate in my mind
+</I>&gt;<i> is my not formatting /var when i did the install, only surely that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> uncommon?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bascule
+</I>
+Hi bascule
+
+I don't think it's permissions, but owners and groups that are your problem.
+
+The second set of errors are about groups and owners. They can differ
+from distribution to distribution - you had &quot;yum&quot; listed on your last
+e-mail, which implies a Fedora/RedHat-based installation was on there
+previously. One or the other distribution (I can't remember which)
+enforces user:group IDs of 1000 and above on unprivileged users and
+Mageia allows 500 and above. That can cause some *real* problems moving
+from one to another, or dual booting into the same set of /home
+directories, as I did once.
+
+Check, especially that the files in /var are owned by root:root and not
+by anything else or has a numeric ID listed, which implies that your
+user:group numbers have changed between distribution installs.
+
+
+Simon
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday 12 Dec 2011 20:49 my mailbox was graced by a message from Richard
+Couture who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; usernames, like in openSUSE and Fedora.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; You can already create a username with upper-case letters with useradd in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a console.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I think that the RFC for EMail says that any user wishing to receive
+</I>&gt;<i> mail had better have no CAPS in his/her username
+</I>
+The local-part of the email address may use any of these ASCII characters RFC
+5322 Section 3.2.3:
+
+ Uppercase and lowercase English letters (a&#8211;z, A&#8211;Z) (ASCII: 65-90, 97-122)
+ Digits 0 to 9 (ASCII: 48-57)
+ Characters !#$%&amp;'*+-/=?^_`{|}~ (ASCII: 33, 35-39, 42, 43, 45, 47, 61, 63,
+94-96, 123-126)
+ Character . (dot, period, full stop) (ASCII: 46) provided that it is not
+the first or last character, and provided also that it does not appear two or
+more times consecutively (e.g. <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">John..Doe at example.com</A> is not allowed.).
+ Special characters are allowed with restrictions including:
+ Space and &quot;(),:;&lt;&gt;@[\] (ASCII: 32, 34, 40, 41, 44, 58, 59, 60, 62, 64,
+91-93)
+
+The restrictions for special characters are that they must be contained
+between quotation marks and that 3 special chars (The space, backslash \ and
+quotation mark &quot; (ASCII: 32, 92, 34) must be preceded by a backslash \ (e.g.
+&quot;\&quot;\\\ &quot;).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Hate is like acid. It can damage the vessel in which it is stored
+ as well as destroy the object on which it is poured.
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Simon Parsons</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Feature%20request%3A%20uppercase%20letters%20in%20user%0A%09names&In-Reply-To=%3C4EE8909F.6080602%40jrc.co.uk%3E"
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+<PRE>On 14/12/2011 11:00, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The local-part of the email address may use any of these ASCII characters RFC
+</I>&gt;<i> 5322 Section 3.2.3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>
+I suppose this has been thought about many times, but let's have another go:
+
+Unix name: simonnzg
+Real Name: Simon Parsons
+e-mail name: well, lots of them, actually.
+
+User names do not have to be equal to e-mail names. That's what
+/etc/aliases is for, amongst other things.
+
+It's a bad idea to have a fixed distinction between upper and lower case
+user names - people, word processors and mobile text input systems tend
+to capitalise names so most pragmatic e-mail systems assume &quot;a=A&quot;, for
+instance.
+
+There is no reason why it should not be possible to alias user names so
+that they log on with whatever they want, but their &quot;real&quot; Unix user
+name is all lower case. This happens with Samba now and the standard
+Mageia &quot;click on your name to login&quot; login screen uses the user's name
+rather than the Unix user name.
+
+In this case, it MAY be possible to add an option for a &quot;click on your
+capitalised user name to login&quot;, but I don't know if that's worthwhile.
+ If a user wants to be known as SimonNZG instead of simonnzg (in my
+case), then that is usually usually because it's a team login and not an
+individual one, so the user's Real Name can be set to SimonNZG and the
+problem is solved.
+
+Additionally, you could simply make the name entered into the login box
+case agnostic, but that would no-doubt break all sorts of stuff if it
+wasn't mapped to a real Unix user name. It's perfectly doable, though.
+
+
+Simon
+
+
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>On 14 December 2011 12:03, Simon Parsons &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nzg at jrc.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 14/12/2011 11:00, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The local-part of the email address may use any of these ASCII characters
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> RFC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 5322 Section 3.2.3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suppose this has been thought about many times, but let's have another go:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unix name: simonnzg
+</I>&gt;<i> Real Name: Simon Parsons
+</I>&gt;<i> e-mail name: well, lots of them, actually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> User names do not have to be equal to e-mail names. That's what /etc/aliases
+</I>&gt;<i> is for, amongst other things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a bad idea to have a fixed distinction between upper and lower case
+</I>&gt;<i> user names - people, word processors and mobile text input systems tend to
+</I>&gt;<i> capitalise names so most pragmatic e-mail systems assume &quot;a=A&quot;, for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no reason why it should not be possible to alias user names so that
+</I>&gt;<i> they log on with whatever they want, but their &quot;real&quot; Unix user name is all
+</I>&gt;<i> lower case. &#160;This happens with Samba now and the standard Mageia &quot;click on
+</I>&gt;<i> your name to login&quot; login screen uses the user's name rather than the Unix
+</I>&gt;<i> user name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case, it MAY be possible to add an option for a &quot;click on your
+</I>&gt;<i> capitalised user name to login&quot;, but I don't know if that's worthwhile. &#160;If
+</I>&gt;<i> a user wants to be known as SimonNZG instead of simonnzg (in my case), then
+</I>&gt;<i> that is usually usually because it's a team login and not an individual one,
+</I>&gt;<i> so the user's Real Name can be set to SimonNZG and the problem is solved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Additionally, you could simply make the name entered into the login box case
+</I>&gt;<i> agnostic, but that would no-doubt break all sorts of stuff if it wasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> mapped to a real Unix user name. It's perfectly doable, though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Simon
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have no idea how they do, or if it is relevent, but PCBSD allow
+capitals in usernames.
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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:07:43 iZoli wrote:
+&gt;<i> So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in usernames,
+</I>
+Can you explain *why* you would want this?
+
+&gt;<i> like in openSUSE and Fedora.
+</I>
+In my opinion, this isn't a good reason.
+
+Note that most tools are case insensitive, so for example, you can already log
+in with your username in any case you like:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ id -un
+bgmilne
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ echo $USER
+bgmilne
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">BGMILNE at localhost</A> id -un
+bgmilne
+
+In most cases, what is displayed to the user in any situation where a friendly
+name is expected, the GECOS field, which is case sensitive and supports
+uppercase, is used.
+
+I really just don't see the point ...
+
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> In most cases, what is displayed to the user in any situation where a
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly name is expected, the GECOS field, which is case sensitive and
+</I>&gt;<i> supports uppercase, is used.
+</I>
+Well, I suppose that's the answer. If they WANT to use capitals, they can...
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+Simon
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+ <B>iZoli</B>
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+<PRE>There is no technical reason, just aesthetic. iZoli username looks better
+than izoli, that's it. If you work with command line, the username is
+displayed.
+It won't break my heart if this will be rejected.
+
+Regards,
+Zoli
+
+On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Buchan Milne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:07:43 iZoli wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in usernames,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you explain *why* you would want this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like in openSUSE and Fedora.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my opinion, this isn't a good reason.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that most tools are case insensitive, so for example, you can already
+</I>&gt;<i> log in with your username in any case you like:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ id -un
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bgmilne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ echo $USER
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bgmilne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bgmilne at tiger</A> ~]$ ssh <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">BGMILNE at localhost</A> id -un
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bgmilne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In most cases, what is displayed to the user in any situation where a
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly name is expected, the GECOS field, which is case sensitive and
+</I>&gt;<i> supports uppercase, is used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really just don't see the point ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 09:39 my mailbox was graced by a message from Buchan
+Milne who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in usernames,
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Can you explain why you would want this?
+</I>
+Why not ? Is not Linux about freedom of choice ?
+
+And since the system accepts upper case in user names, why restrict them at
+the mcc/userdrake level ?
+
+Is it a case of &quot;We are Drake of Borg, resistance is futile&quot; ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ A man with a million dollars
+ is as well off as if he were rich.
+ -- J.P. Morgan
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 09:39 my mailbox was graced by a message from Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i> Milne who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in usernames,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you explain why you would want this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not ? Is not Linux about freedom of choice ?
+</I>
+That does not equate with getting whatever one wants done. Unless one
+can make and contribute it on her own.
+
+&gt;<i> And since the system accepts upper case in user names, why restrict them at
+</I>&gt;<i> the mcc/userdrake level ?
+</I>
+First, it is not clear if the request is clearly about the system user
+id/login or about the user real name (which already does what is
+asked). Is it about having your real displayed here and there instead
+of your user id? Is it about being able to authenticate with one or
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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, 14 December 2011 15:22:37 iZoli wrote:
+&gt;<i> There is no technical reason, just aesthetic. iZoli username looks better
+</I>&gt;<i> than izoli, that's it.
+</I>
+Does /Etc look better than /etc too? Maybe we should move to FhS, instead of
+supporting FHS .... for the aesthetics, regardless of how much work it is, or
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 09:39 my mailbox was graced by a message from
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Milne who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So my feature request would be to support uppercase letters in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; usernames,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can you explain why you would want this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not ? Is not Linux about freedom of choice ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And since the system accepts upper case in user names, why restrict them at
+</I>&gt;<i> the mcc/userdrake level ?
+</I>
+Because it may not be the best choice for the user, and limit their choices
+going forward.
+
+So, if you create the users TEST, test, Test, teSt, and later decide you want
+to migrate them to LDAP or Samba4, which one do you want to keep?
+
+Regards,
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+d'Alverny who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; And since the system accepts upper case in user names, why restrict them
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; at the mcc/userdrake level ?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> First, it is not clear if the request is clearly about the system user
+</I>&gt;<i> id/login or about the user real name
+</I>
+From what he wrote, I get the impression he prefers to see iZoli, rather than
+izoli, when working the CLI. Why not ?
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 11:43 my mailbox was graced by a message from Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> d'Alverny who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And since the system accepts upper case in user names, why restrict them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> at the mcc/userdrake level ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First, it is not clear if the request is clearly about the system user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> id/login or about the user real name
+</I>&gt;<i> From what he wrote, I get the impression he prefers to see iZoli, rather than
+</I>&gt;<i> izoli, when working the CLI. Why not ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>Well, then just change the prompt, so it will display iZoli. Why do we need
+to support uppercase letters in user names for that?
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+&gt;<i> Am 14.12.2011 16:33, schrieb Renaud (Ron) Olgiati:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> First, it is not clear if the request is clearly about the system user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> id/login or about the user real name
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From what he wrote, I get the impression he prefers to see iZoli, rather than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> izoli, when working the CLI. Why not ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, then just change the prompt, so it will display iZoli. Why do we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to support uppercase letters in user names for that?
+</I>
+Indeed. The uid is not meant to be the display name, unless by
+default. Wondered if we had a better option than export FULLNAME=`grep
+-e &quot;^$USER:&quot; /etc/passwd|gawk -F':' '{print $5}'` in .bash_profile?
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 13:01 my mailbox was graced by a message from Florian
+Hubold who wrote:
+&gt;<i> Well, then just change the prompt, so it will display iZoli. Why do we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to support uppercase letters in user names for that?
+</I>
+because the prompt usually includes the username, in the form of the
+user home directory name ?
+
+Cheers,
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+Ron.
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 17:01, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 14.12.2011 16:33, schrieb Renaud (Ron) Olgiati:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; First, it is not clear if the request is clearly about the system user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; id/login or about the user real name
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; From what he wrote, I get the impression he prefers to see iZoli, rather than
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; izoli, when working the CLI. Why not ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, then just change the prompt, so it will display iZoli. Why do we need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to support uppercase letters in user names for that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed. The uid is not meant to be the display name, unless by
+</I>&gt;<i> default. Wondered if we had a better option than export FULLNAME=`grep
+</I>&gt;<i> -e &quot;^$USER:&quot; /etc/passwd|gawk -F':' '{print $5}'` in .bash_profile?
+</I>
+getent passwd $USER | gawk -F':' '{print $5}'
+
+so that it works if the account is not in /etc/passwd.
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+ <B>Deri James</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 16:38:34 nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; From what he wrote, I get the impression he prefers to see iZoli,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; rather than izoli, when working the CLI. Why not ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Well, then just change the prompt, so it will display iZoli. Why do we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; need to support uppercase letters in user names for that?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Indeed. The uid is not meant to be the display name, unless by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; default. Wondered if we had a better option than export FULLNAME=`grep
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -e &quot;^$USER:&quot; /etc/passwd|gawk -F':' '{print $5}'` in .bash_profile?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> getent passwd $USER | gawk -F':' '{print $5}'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so that it works if the account is not in /etc/passwd.
+</I>
+To get that into the CLI prompt do:-
+
+export PS1=&quot;[`getent passwd $USER | gawk -F':' '{print $5}'`@\h \W]\$ &quot;
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+<PRE>bascule wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 13 December 2011 07:25:27 Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday 13 December 2011 08:01, bascule wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; firewall -&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Error: No firewall rules in IPv4 INPUT chain and policy is set to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ACCEPT. firewall: ERROR
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Instead of &quot;ERROR&quot;, shouldn't this simply state that the Firewall is Off?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And why is that an Error? On some systems and circumstances, like a local
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> internal network (often behind NAT), a firewall is deliberately diaabled,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and is therefore not an Error.
+</I>&gt;<i> still struggling with these errors, after correcting some of the permisions
+</I>&gt;<i> where the fix was stated the next msec check promptly contradicted itslef by
+</I>&gt;<i> saying i should change them back, the following two system emails have just
+</I>&gt;<i> been produced by msec:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------------
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /proc to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/samba/cores/smbd to 600
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/sshd_config to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /etc/ssh/sshd_config to 640
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /home/bascule to 751
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/samba/cores/nmbd to 600
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing group on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub to adm
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/dmesg to 640
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/messages to 640
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/lastlog to 640
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Enforcing permissions on /var/log/rpmpkgs to 640
+</I>&gt;<i> --------------
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------
+</I>&gt;<i> openssh -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong permissions on regular file &quot;/etc/ssh/sshd_config&quot;: 640 (sshd
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration file, required permissions are 600)
+</I>&gt;<i> Error: Missing file or directory: &quot;/var/empty/sshd&quot; (directory used by sshd
+</I>&gt;<i> during privilege separation in the pre-authentication phase)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (sshd private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key&quot; (sshd
+</I>&gt;<i> private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (sshd private key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Wrong owner/group on regular file: &quot;/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (sshd public key - from configuration file, required owner/group is root:root)
+</I>&gt;<i> openssh: ERROR
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ogfiles -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Error: File /var/log/lastlog has wrong permssions! The correct permissions
+</I>&gt;<i> are 644.
+</I>&gt;<i> Error: File /var/log/messages has wrong permssions! The correct
+</I>&gt;<i> permissions are 600.
+</I>&gt;<i> logfiles: ERROR
+</I>&gt;<i> -------------
+</I>&gt;<i> as you can see the contents of 1 contradict the contents of 2 but both are
+</I>&gt;<i> produced by the msec cron jobs that run about 4am, i must be alone in this
+</I>&gt;<i> error since i can't imagine it being widespread and not reported before,
+</I>&gt;<i> therefore my install must be unique somehow and the only candidate in my mind
+</I>&gt;<i> is my not formatting /var when i did the install, only surely that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> uncommon?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bascule
+</I>
+The first set of messages you printed comes from msec. The second comes from sectool. Basically,
+you can ignore the messages from sectool. Unfortunately one of the updates to msec added sectool
+as a requires or suggests, but sectool is not well integrated with msec or Mageia. There are bugs
+about this in the bugzilla. The last comments on the bug were that dropping sectool is probably
+the best option, but this has not happened yet.
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 05:19:01 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006085.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006102.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006084.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>iZoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006100.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:38:39 CET 2011</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 05:19:01 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006084.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006085.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>iZoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006100.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006102.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:38:39 CET 2011</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 05:19:01 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006084.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006085.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006102.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006100.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>iZoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:38:39 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 05:19:01 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Dec 14 22:36:41 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 19<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01323836341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006084.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bascule
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01323836341-01323850584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006085.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01323836341-01323898601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006102.html">[Mageia-discuss] erros after mageia1 install
+</A><A NAME="6102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01323860424- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01323860424-01323864223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006087.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323860424-01323864223-01323864771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01323866389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01323866389-01323868537- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Simon Parsons
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01323866389-01323868957- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>iZoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323866389-01323868957-01323876261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01323866389-01323871479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832-01323878477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832-01323878477-01323879581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832-01323878477-01323879581-01323880714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006100.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832-01323878477-01323879581-01323880714-01323881928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Deri James
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323866389-01323871479-01323873837-01323876832-01323878477-01323880324- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
+</A><A NAME="6099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="006095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Feature request: uppercase letters in user names
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+<I>Buchan Milne
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