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+ <B>Thomas C Gilliard</B>
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+<PRE>The torrents give a red refused message in Ubuntu 11.04 Transmission.
+Is there any normal Download available?
+
+Cheers
+
+Tom Gilliard
+Bend Oregon
+
+On 11/25/2011 01:35 PM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> The torrents give a red refused message in Ubuntu 11.04 Transmission.
+</I>
+I wonder if this is a temporary/network problem at your end...
+
+I have 3 torrent servers running, and none of them are overloaded.
+
+&gt;<i> Is there any normal Download available?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/2/">http://www.mageia.org/en/2/</A>
+
+
+Please note that many servers are still syncing...
+
+But for example mirrors.kernel.org seems to be ok:
+<A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/cauldron/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/cauldron/</A>
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+<PRE>On 25.11.2011 22:35, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good work!
+Happy testings! And remember to submit all bugs!
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Richard Couture</B>
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+<PRE>They are available on my mirror at
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.linuxcabal.org/pub/mirrors/Mageia/iso/cauldron/">ftp://ftp.linuxcabal.org/pub/mirrors/Mageia/iso/cauldron/</A>
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+
+
+Richard
+
+On 11/25/2011 05:27 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thomas C Gilliard skrev 26.11.2011 01:10:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The torrents give a red refused message in Ubuntu 11.04 Transmission.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder if this is a temporary/network problem at your end...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have 3 torrent servers running, and none of them are overloaded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there any normal Download available?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/2/">http://www.mageia.org/en/2/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please note that many servers are still syncing...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But for example mirrors.kernel.org seems to be ok:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/cauldron/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/cauldron/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
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+ <B>Antoine Pitrou</B>
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+The i386 live CD works much better (unfortunately GNOME 3 seems a chore
+to use).
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
+On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:23:01 +0100
+Antoine Pitrou &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">solipsis at pitrou.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:35:57 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ouch!!
+</I>&gt;<i> I've just tested the x86-64 GNOME Europe-America live CD, and it felt
+</I>&gt;<i> like going back to 2000. First it didn't try to recognize or configure
+</I>&gt;<i> my keyboard, so I ended up with an American layout on my AZERTY
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard. Second it logged me into IceWM (!) and when I logged out
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't propose me anything else than either IceWM or drak3d. I know
+</I>&gt;<i> that GNOME 3 is &quot;slimmer&quot; and &quot;more streamlined&quot; but I didn't expect it
+</I>&gt;<i> to completely hide itself from the list of available desktops.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (ah, and in the boot menu, it says &quot;Mageia 1&quot; instead of &quot;Mageia 2&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gonna give a test to the i386 live CD, just in case it's usable...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+On vendredi 25 novembre 2011 at 22:35, Anne nicolas wrote :
+&gt;<i> Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>
+Is it useful to test an upgrade from mageia 1 to this alpha?
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+&gt;<i> On vendredi 25 novembre 2011 at 22:35, Anne nicolas wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>Just tried GNOME within virtualbox...
+
+Very poor video because of no virtualbox video driver included....
+
+Should we add this one back in the later release?
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>I successfully installed alpha 1 from the brand new iso DVD. Install
+goes smoothly, but after booting the system, I come to a screeming stop:
+
+When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update packages,
+urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not running.
+
+rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a
+perfectly standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident
+result: it lists 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but
+then fails because the hal daemon is not running.
+
+That puts a stop to any further testing. Is there a work around that
+allows to install hal while the hal daemon is not running?
+
+I have seen a second problem: although I have configured my system with
+an expliciteyly specified host name, the shell prompt says localhost
+(and typing &quot;hostname&quot; echoes &quot;localhost&quot;; nevertheless,
+/etc/sysconfig/network contains as its HOSTNAME=&lt;host&gt; line the value
+for &lt;host&gt; that I had specified.
+
+I will file a bug on the hostname problem - the hal problem looks so
+primitive that I have doubts wheter I did not do something wrong when I
+did my install (but I consciously kept my install to an obvious &quot;newby
+install&quot; - i586, Dell Optiplex 755 desktop). I suspend filing a bug
+until I get some echo to this message.
+
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+<PRE>On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 07:59 my mailbox was graced by a message from Juergen
+Harms who wrote:
+&gt;<i> When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a
+</I>&gt;<i> perfectly standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident
+</I>&gt;<i> result: it lists 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but
+</I>&gt;<i> then fails because the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That puts a stop to any further testing. Is there a work around that
+</I>&gt;<i> allows to install hal while the hal daemon is not running?
+</I>
+Install the 9 packages with rpm -i ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind
+ when he has a hole in his head.
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+<PRE> &gt; Install the 9 packages with rpm -i
+
+Great suggestion, will try.
+
+But the other question remains: did I blunder and should throw ashes
+over my head, or is there a serious problem, requiring a high-priority
+bug to be filed? - this problem sounds so out of the world. Probably the
+best is to wait whether other testers hit the same problem when they try
+their new isos
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 07:59 my mailbox was graced by a message from
+</I>&gt;<i> Juergen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Harms who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perfectly standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; result: it lists 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then fails because the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That puts a stop to any further testing. Is there a work around that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; allows to install hal while the hal daemon is not running?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Install the 9 packages with rpm -i ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well it would also be useful to get the result of urpmi here, because i don't
+understand how can urpmi hal can failed because &#171; hal &#187; is not running.
+
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+&gt;<i> Am 25.11.2011 14:49, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My original post wasn't meant to be a complaint on the delay, though reading
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it again I can see where it could be taken that way. I merely wanted to let
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somebody know that Firefox 8.0.1 seemed to be working for me. BTW, I did get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the notice that the non-USA English language packs were being disabled as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> incompatible, but because they were for FF 7.0.1 and I had downloaded and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed just the USA version of 8.0.1, I thought nothing of it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I admit to being a bit frustrated at not finding anything by myself about why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it was taking as long as it has, but apparently that's because my search
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> skills aren't up to the task. My apologies if anyone took offense.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not taken as a complaint here, but still i wanted to give
+</I>&gt;<i> some information why it has taken so long.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want definitive information, normally there is always
+</I>&gt;<i> a bug report for such security updates, so you could have
+</I>&gt;<i> searched bugzilla. Or just poked around on IRC :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I did search Bugzilla, but either my search phrase wasn't effective, or
+I just passed over it in the results. Quite possible, either way. No big
+deal.
+
+One other piece of information... The update just came through, with the
+new other-than-US English language packs. I ran the version of Firefox
+8.0.1 that I installed, and the language pack add-ons had been
+re-activated automatically.
+
+TJ
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+&gt;<i> I successfully installed alpha 1 from the brand new iso DVD. Install goes
+</I>&gt;<i> smoothly, but after booting the system, I come to a screeming stop:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a perfectly
+</I>&gt;<i> standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident result: it lists
+</I>&gt;<i> 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but then fails because the
+</I>&gt;<i> hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That puts a stop to any further testing. Is there a work around that allows
+</I>&gt;<i> to install hal while the hal daemon is not running?
+</I>
+Yes. :)
+I ran into the same, then I looked at the media and realized that
+there is &quot;cdrom&quot; still activated (the installation medium). This could
+not be found because HAL was not running. De-activating this medium
+worked around the problem, urpmi installed (almost) all 240 updates.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2011/11/26 Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I successfully installed alpha 1 from the brand new iso DVD. Install goes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; smoothly, but after booting the system, I come to a screeming stop:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a perfectly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident result: it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lists 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but then fails
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That puts a stop to any further testing. Is there a work around that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; allows to install hal while the hal daemon is not running?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> I ran into the same, then I looked at the media and realized that
+</I>&gt;<i> there is &quot;cdrom&quot; still activated (the installation medium). This could
+</I>&gt;<i> not be found because HAL was not running. De-activating this medium
+</I>&gt;<i> worked around the problem, urpmi installed (almost) all 240 updates.
+</I>
+Perhaps the cdrom could be found with udev directly (not using hal?)
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+<PRE>First attempts with kde liveCD (x86-64) Europe1
+
+First part of the process OK. First reboot no kerboard, neither mouse active.
+Aftre several attempts I was unable to go further than Administrator and users
+data requests.
+
+I will try th i586 live CD
+SM
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+&gt;<i> I successfully installed alpha 1 from the brand new iso DVD. Install
+</I>&gt;<i> goes smoothly, but after booting the system, I come to a screeming stop:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I try to run urpmi (from a console) for installing update
+</I>&gt;<i> packages, urpmi refuses with the message that the hal daemon is not
+</I>&gt;<i> running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q in fact confirms that hal is not installed (I had done a
+</I>&gt;<i> perfectly standard KDE install). Doing &quot;urpmi hal&quot; gives the evident
+</I>&gt;<i> result: it lists 9 packages to be installed (among which is hal) but
+</I>&gt;<i> then fails because the hal daemon is not running.
+</I>I have reproduced this with minimal installation. There isn't hal
+installed and it blocks from using cdrom medium - I had to manually
+mount the device and addmedia to the fixed path.
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+
+what to do next ?
+
+SM
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+<PRE> &gt; This could not be found because HAL was not running.
+
+Ahh, that tells me something: after I had applied Rons recipy
+(downloaded the 9 packages and installed them with rpm - followed by a
+reboot) urpmi became launchable - but when the DVD was requested by
+urpmi it complained about the missing mount point /media/cdrom - has to
+be created manually each time.
+
+Are there overlapping problems, maybe?
+1. why does the installer not load hal (and its dependencies)?
+2. what precisely is the nature of this media mounting problem?
+3. why does urpmi fail because &quot;hal&quot; is not running?
+
+They look rather independant from each other.
+
+John: what result from urpmi do you want to see? urpmi simply, after
+enumerating the packages required, gave the message &quot;urpmi: hal daemon
+is not running&quot; (maybe I was sloppy noting the message, but that is
+about all I got).
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+<PRE>On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i> On vendredi 25 novembre 2011 at 22:35, Anne nicolas wrote :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia 2 alpha 1 is finally available on public mirrors. Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everybody for the hard work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/11/25/mageia-2-alpha1-ready-for-testing/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Isos are being synced on all mirrors (see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors">http://mirrors.mageia.org/mirrors</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As usual we need your feedbacks. Testers welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it useful to test an upgrade from mageia 1 to this alpha?
+</I>
+Yes, to report packages that do not get updated correctly.
+
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+<PRE>I have now filed:
+
+Bugzilla #2476: the problem mounting a DVD medium
+
+The urpmi / hal problem has been reported while we had this discussion:
+Bugzilla #3458
+
+a 3rd bug (the hostname problem mentioned in my original mail) had
+already been filed: Bugzilla #2938 (workaround: immediately after boot:
+do a command-line &quot;hostname &lt;your-host-name&gt;&quot; - that solves the problem
+until your next boot, than you have to do it again.
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+<LI><A HREF="005965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005967.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005968.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Firefox 8
+</A><A NAME="5973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005980.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:31 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:36 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>26 November 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 00:10:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:31 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 20<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005967.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005968.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005980.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Firefox 8
+</A><A NAME="5973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas C Gilliard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:31 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:36 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>26 November 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 00:10:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:31 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 20<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01322262652- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas C Gilliard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322262652-01322263671- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01322262652-01322263671-01322264788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322265378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01322266036- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01322298721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005967.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322298721-01322299140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005968.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01322298721-01322328613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005980.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322305149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322305149-01322306697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01322305149-01322306697-01322307442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01322305149-01322306697-01322307767- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01322305149-01322308072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01322305149-01322308072-01322312584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01322305149-01322308072-01322317500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01322305149-01322316492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01322305149-01322316492-01322339011- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vicious problem with missing hal in alpha 1
+</A><A NAME="5981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322307869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Firefox 8
+</A><A NAME="5973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01322313766- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322313766-01322316660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 alpha 1 is out
+</A><A NAME="5978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:31 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Nov 26 21:23:36 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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