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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 23 23:30:27 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011, Alejandro L&#243;pez wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:32 AM, D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Markus Ueberall
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Markus.Ueberall at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 18.11.2011 04:52, schrieb David W. Hodgins:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. Just want to make sure that anyone who is using the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sun java package from the repositories know that they must
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> get the latest security updates directly from java.com, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the packages in the Mageia repositories are not being updated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder whether it is feasible to come up with a &quot;get-sun-java&quot; rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which uses the same mechanism as the get-skype rpm for those who
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> need/prefer Oracle's implementation?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ad astra, Markus
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why ? openjdk is good enough to replace oracle java.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and soonish we will have java7 too in mageia so i really don't see now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the need of the closed source one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Everything you said is true, but let me disagree with your question. Why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not? Some users might prefer Oracle's java, while others might rather use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OpenJDK. As long as there are volunteers for maintaining both packages, why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shou;d it be one or the other? Why not providing both?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is maybe volunteers to maintain oracle java package, but I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> think there is many volunteers to maintain the full java stack with both
+</I>&gt;<i> JVMs. We already have too few people maintaining the java packages, so
+</I>&gt;<i> if we can avoid giving them more work by supporting multiple JVMs,
+</I>&gt;<i> that's better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's also why we try to have if possible only one version of gcc, perl,
+</I>&gt;<i> python, ruby, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I agree. We have lots of other areas to put our packaging ressources.
+As well, unless the policy has changed, users can get automatic update
+notices for Sun java.
+
+Also, I've noticed that some (if not most) packages which required Sun
+java in the past (from upstream bug reports) now work well with OpenJDK.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
+
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