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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2011-10-19 16:33, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:16:52 -0400, Marc Par&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2011-10-19 14:29, KevinO a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think there is a graphical tool in mcc to enter the names and IP
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> addresses of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hosts. If so, use that. (I don't have time right now to boot my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> laptop and look)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will take a look or, if someone could point me to it, this would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> great.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The program drakhosts is accessible through mcc under Network &amp; Internet,
+</I>&gt;<i> Other, as Hosts definitions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for the note Dave. I'll give it a whirl.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2011-10-19 22:37, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 2011-10-19 16:33, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:16:52 -0400, Marc Par&#233;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2011-10-19 14:29, KevinO a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think there is a graphical tool in mcc to enter the names and IP
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> addresses of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hosts. If so, use that. (I don't have time right now to boot my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> laptop and look)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will take a look or, if someone could point me to it, this would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> great.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The program drakhosts is accessible through mcc under Network &amp; Internet,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other, as Hosts definitions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the note Dave. I'll give it a whirl.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Oops, just to add, when I bring up drakhosts, it shows the following:
+
+IP address: 127.0.0.1
+Host name: localhost.localdomain
+Host Aliases: localhost
+
+Which one would I change to &quot;Marc's Computer&quot; -- I am assuming &quot;Host
+Aliases&quot; is the one to change? If I do make this change, will this
+affect any of my software? Are there any repercussions to changing Host
+Aliases from the point of view of Magia, will it affect the way it works?
+
+If this is the solution, would it make sense to ask users to name their
+machine at the installation point? Then setting up shares would be ready
+to go?
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] How to solve this problem?">liam at holoweb.net
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 22:29 +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> The net-install ISO has a shell (Alt-F2) with busybox which provides a
+</I>&gt;<i> simple implementation of netcat which you can use to send the appropriate
+</I>&gt;<i> request to the captive portal.
+</I>
+I think that's not really a solution - after all, the user with limited
+net access probably won't be able to look up how to use netcat to do
+this, unless the documentation included instructions.
+
+A long term solution might be to try and get an operational Web browser
+sooner. Maybe then using HTML5 for the user interface for the
+installer?
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode etc
+
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Setting%20up%20NFS%20shares%20with%20MCC%20--%20fixing%0A%20etc/fstab&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v3m3wtxpn7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"
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+ <I>Thu Oct 20 09:47:07 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:49:29 -0400, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> IP address: 127.0.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> Host name: localhost.localdomain
+</I>&gt;<i> Host Aliases: localhost
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which one would I change to &quot;Marc's Computer&quot; -- I am assuming &quot;Host
+</I>&gt;<i> Aliases&quot; is the one to change? If I do make this change, will this
+</I>&gt;<i> affect any of my software? Are there any repercussions to changing Host
+</I>&gt;<i> Aliases from the point of view of Magia, will it affect the way it works?
+</I>
+Setting up a network requires a basic knowledge of how dns
+systems work.
+
+&quot;Marc's Computer&quot; is not a valid name.
+
+What you should be doing is adding an ip address/validname for each
+computer on the lan.
+
+For example, I have ...
+192.168.10.1 router r
+192.168.10.20 xppro.hodgins.homeip.net xppro
+192.168.10.30 knoppix.hodgins.homeip.net xppro
+
+In my case, xppro and knoppix are virtualbox installs,
+using static ip addresses, router is my router.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
+
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+<PRE>Thanks Deri
+
+Le 19/10/11 04:36 PM, Deri James a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 19 Oct 2011 14:17:35 Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was just reviewing my old Mandriva posts and here is a problem with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setting up NFS shares that still exists in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be nice if someone else could confirm and really nice if this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> were fixed in Mageia. It would be a lot easier for newbies to set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shares on their home machines.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can confirm that MCC setting up and accessing NFS shares works perfectly on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. I don't believe MCC supports NFS v4 (you have to do that manually).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just to make sure:
+
+* you have 2 computers and set shares on either a drive or file folder
+on computer #1
+* on computer #2, you then used MCC-&gt;Network Sharing -&gt;Access NFS shared
+drives and directories and clicked on &quot;Search servers&quot;
+* the result of the &quot;Search servers&quot; found your computer #1 IP
+* you then clicked on the computer #1 IP which then showed your shared
+drive or folder
+* you then clicked on the shared folder and clicked &quot;Mount point&quot; on the
+bottom
+* a window appeared saying &quot;Where do you want to mount
+&quot;TheNameOfYourFolder&quot; and it gave you the option of where to mount it.
+(I usually leave it at default &quot;/mnt/TheNameOfYourFolder&quot;) and clicked OK
+* you then clicked &quot;Mount&quot; and you DID NOT GET A WINDOW SAYING &quot;mounting
+partition .... failed&quot;
+* you clicked on &quot;Done&quot;
+* a confirming window opened saying &quot;Do you want to save the /etc/fstab
+modifications? and you clicked Yes
+
+If this worked every time, it would be awesome. I have found that it
+does not work. In my case I always get the warning window: &quot;mounting
+partition .... failed&quot; and I then have to modify the fstab by hand with
+the computer IP address.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 20 oktober 2011 05:17:29 schreef Liam R E Quin:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 22:29 +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The net-install ISO has a shell (Alt-F2) with busybox which provides a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; simple implementation of netcat which you can use to send the appropriate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; request to the captive portal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that's not really a solution - after all, the user with limited
+</I>&gt;<i> net access probably won't be able to look up how to use netcat to do
+</I>&gt;<i> this, unless the documentation included instructions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A long term solution might be to try and get an operational Web browser
+</I>&gt;<i> sooner. Maybe then using HTML5 for the user interface for the
+</I>&gt;<i> installer?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>
+i don't think this is a possibility, remember, you're only having stage1 here,
+just a very limited busybox, not even a full linux environment, let alone X or
+any gui or browser...
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+<PRE>David W. Hodgins had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 20-10-11 09:47:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:49:29 -0400, Marc Par&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IP address: 127.0.0.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Host name: localhost.localdomain
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Host Aliases: localhost
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which one would I change to &quot;Marc's Computer&quot; -- I am assuming &quot;Host
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aliases&quot; is the one to change? If I do make this change, will this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> affect any of my software? Are there any repercussions to changing Host
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aliases from the point of view of Magia, will it affect the way it works?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Setting up a network requires a basic knowledge of how dns
+</I>&gt;<i> systems work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Marc's Computer&quot; is not a valid name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What you should be doing is adding an ip address/validname for each
+</I>&gt;<i> computer on the lan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, I have ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 192.168.10.1 router r
+</I>&gt;<i> 192.168.10.20 xppro.hodgins.homeip.net xppro
+</I>&gt;<i> 192.168.10.30 knoppix.hodgins.homeip.net xppro
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my case, xppro and knoppix are virtualbox installs,
+</I>&gt;<i> using static ip addresses, router is my router.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>these work-arounds are useful for the time being, but the program in MCC
+should just work as it did some years ago in Mandriva.
+
+Regards,
+
+Erik Jan.
+
+
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+<LI><A HREF="005728.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up NFS shares with MCC -- fixing etc/fstab
+</A><A NAME="5728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
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+<LI><A HREF="005736.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up NFS shares with MCC -- fixing etc/fstab
+</A><A NAME="5736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Erik Jan
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+<LI><A HREF="005727.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to solve this problem?
+</A><A NAME="5727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
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+<LI><A HREF="005730.html">[Mageia-discuss] How to solve this problem?
+</A><A NAME="5730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+<LI><A HREF="005729.html">[Mageia-discuss] Setting up NFS shares with MCC -- fixing etc/fstab
+</A><A NAME="5729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
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