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On booting the new system the network comes up +</I>>><i> fine. +</I>><i> I'd say it is worth pursuing. You should enter a bug report. I +</I>><i> assume you know that the network is actually up during the install, +</I>><i> e.g. because you're doing a network install. You would need to have a +</I>><i> USB stick or a floppy disk available during install. When you get +</I>><i> whatever error you get during the updates phase at the end, switch to +</I>><i> virtual console 2 via CTRL-ALT-F2 and type "bug". This will place a +</I>><i> diagnostic file on the USB or floppy called report.bug, which you +</I>><i> should *attach* (not cut and paste) to the bug report. It should +</I>><i> contain the syslog, which should itself contain messages indicating +</I>><i> why the network failed to come up. +</I>><i> +</I>No, the network is not up. I install from the DVD. It is at the end of +the installation that the script offers to try to connect. As I said, +failure at this point does not bother me because I am not inclined to +install the updates at that point anyway - could make it a very long +night. I had thought about a bug report but had no data. However, on +my next install I shall be prepared. Thanks for the information on how +to capture the required data. And these failures apply across several +different systems and network hardware, wired or wireless, and always +from CD or DVD. The installations have nearly always been +straightforward (60-70 altogether) save for the inability to connect to +the net. My experience shows that this is merely a glitch but newcomers +might fear that this means no networking after first boot. I cannot +believe that this is not a common problem. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5603">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5603">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5603">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5603">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005604.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005604.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e59133276 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005604.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921DC6.10406%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005610.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005606.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E921DC6.10406%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time">andre999mga at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 00:18:46 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5604">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5604">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5604">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5604">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Len Lawrence a écrit : +><i> I note from the latest posts that some people have unreliable +</I>><i> connections to the internet at install time. Now in my 14 years of +</I>><i> installing mandrake, mandriva, mageia the web has never been available +</I>><i> during installation. For some of those years it was dialup and in +</I>><i> later installs the network adapter was probably only supported under +</I>><i> windows. However, for the last five or six installs there has been +</I>><i> native support but the attempt to connect at the end of the install +</I>><i> has always failed. On booting the new system the network comes up +</I>><i> fine. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is this an area worth investigating? It does not really bother me but +</I>><i> newcomers might have their confidence shaken at this point. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Len +</I> +I have had similar experiences, and I know the main reason in my case. +My ISP cuts the connexion of users that have not made recent access. +(Sometimes in the last minute, sometimes in the last 5 minutes or longer.) +I suspect that this is due to the shortage of IP adresses available. +(My ISP still uses only IPV4 for ordinary users.) +So during installation, Internet is _never_ available, although right +after, I quickly have access. (Normally in less than a minute, rarely +it takes a few minutes.) +As well, I don't have the bandwidth to do a network install, which would +theoretically keep my connexion live. +Additionally, my ISP has a policy of arbitrarily slowing down large +transfers (depending on network load), such as would occur with a +network install, making network install problematic, even with an +adequate bandwidth. +I assume that many other users will face similar restrictions by their ISP. + +For newcomers, I would say that a warning to the effect that network +install may be unreliable, due to transfer restrictions by their ISP or +other factors, should be sufficient. +And recommend install from ISO (DVD or live CD or USB) if they have +problems. + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5604">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5604">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5604">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5604">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005605.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005605.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a54a75aa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005605.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E922531.5030809%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005603.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005607.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C4E922531.5030809%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 00:50:25 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5605">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5605">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5605">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5605">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/09/2011 06:08 PM, Len Lawrence wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> No, the network is not up. I install from the DVD. It is at the end +</I>><i> of the installation that the script offers to try to connect. As I +</I>><i> said, failure at this point does not bother me because I am not +</I>><i> inclined to install the updates at that point anyway - could make it a +</I>><i> very long night. I had thought about a bug report but had no data. +</I>><i> However, on my next install I shall be prepared. Thanks for the +</I>><i> information on how to capture the required data. And these failures +</I>><i> apply across several different systems and network hardware, wired or +</I>><i> wireless, and always from CD or DVD. The installations have nearly +</I>><i> always been straightforward (60-70 altogether) save for the inability +</I>><i> to connect to the net. My experience shows that this is merely a +</I>><i> glitch but newcomers might fear that this means no networking after +</I>><i> first boot. I cannot believe that this is not a common problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +As far as I know, neither Mageia nor Mandriva support the use of +wireless during install, if that clears anything up. + +If the network failure is with a wired interface (eth0), then you have a +simple way to verify this without going very far into an install. On +the DVD, in the {i586/x86_64}/install/images directory, find and burn +the boot.iso to a CD-R(W). Then boot that CD, it ENTER for install, and +choose HTTP from the options. The installer will ask you several +questions about what your network connection requires. If you get as +far as having it ask you for the name of the HTTP server, then your +network card works with the installer. If you don't, the messages on +VC1/3/4 will probably tell you why. None of this will affect anything +on your machine, so it's a non-intrusive test. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5605">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5605">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5605">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5605">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005606.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005606.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eaaeaeab7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005606.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Testers%20needed%20for%20hplip%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4E924C3D.7050307%40cox.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005604.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005609.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Gary Montalbine</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Testers%20needed%20for%20hplip%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4E924C3D.7050307%40cox.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1">gmontalbine at cox.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 03:37:01 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Live CD +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/08/2011 03:41 AM, Florian Hubold wrote: +><i> The QA team on Mageia is currently rather small, and we need +</I>><i> some people who have hp printers to help testing an update +</I>><i> to the hplip package. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The bug report for the update is +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2816">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2816</A> +</I> +><i> After that, either add an entry to the bug report, or reply to +</I>><i> this post, and I'll add the info to the bug report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please include whether or not it works, and what system you're +</I>><i> using (32 or 64 bit, and type of printer). +</I> +32 bit. Photosmart Plus B209a-m. +><i> +</I>><i> We are mainly interested in cases where hplip is currently +</I>><i> working, to ensure this update doesn't create any new problems. +</I> +Hplip works however it does not recognize the printer set up in MCC. I +have to reinstall the printer when I use hplip device manager. This +gives me 2 ppd's. + +Gary +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Live CD +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005607.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005607.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fe2fa26f7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005607.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHWeTyYXNg%2B8Zat%3DxrpRAjwkj8JX8r2mSxsL3jmPq_OwizBetQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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When asked what partitions I wanted to +use on the HD, one option was format the entire disk. I chose that and +was told to reboot so it would take effect. I rebooted and nothing had +changed. I had to go to MCC and delete each partition. It then worked + +Gary +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005610.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005610.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..edc048488 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005610.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Network%20connection%20at%20install%20time&In-Reply-To=%3C201110101205.37178.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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before that, I did not even try to start the networking in the days +of dial-up... + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + On ne meurt qu'une fois, + et c'est pour longtemps. + -- Molière + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005611.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005611.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9bff5d0ca --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005611.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwtZnOJ4WaTTQppYKUAAdk-ty5NSHve7Mi-WtTe9aR7OhA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Making the installer so the user can be +confident enough into it and shouldn't have to call for help (then +installer "story" would then anticipate potential fears). And still +make help available as a last resort. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Live CD +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005612.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005612.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ebb3c252d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005612.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3C18731999.1318261379074.JavaMail.root%40mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Oktober 2011, 19:05:22 schrieb lebarhon: +><i> Le 10/10/2011 18:43, Oliver Burger a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi out there, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I would invite all of you for another meeting of the doc team and any +</I>><i> > interested people out there who haven't joined us till now. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We will meet as usual at 18.00 UTC in the #mageia-doc channel on the +</I>><i> > Freenode network. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > See you then, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which day ? thursday ? +</I>Oups, sorry. + +As usual it would be Tuesday aka the one day without any other meeting aka +tomorrow. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Meeting tomorrow +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5614">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5614">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5614">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5614">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005615.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005615.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6eb379fcf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005615.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCAAuOgCfg0PiaYtrK1JZSkOZGtABJd4OKVTHzg3WFW-wF6W8nOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005612.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005616.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)</H1> + <B>Bogdan CAZACU</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCAAuOgCfg0PiaYtrK1JZSkOZGtABJd4OKVTHzg3WFW-wF6W8nOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)">cazacu.bogdan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 21:07:13 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005612.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005616.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>you've got to be kidding me... + +SPAM?! HERE?! :-| + +On 10 October 2011 18:42, genomega <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">genomega at earthlink.net</A>> wrote: + +><i> hello! <A HREF="http://seckin.tv/life.html?afriend=56y8">http://seckin.tv/life.html?afriend=56y8</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20111010/1283d728/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005612.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005616.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005616.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005616.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d518a9ee7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005616.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4E93441C.9020200%40drdos.info%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005615.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005617.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)</H1> + <B>Doug Lytle</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4E93441C.9020200%40drdos.info%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)">support at drdos.info + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 21:14:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005615.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005617.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +Bogdan CAZACU wrote: +><i> you've got to be kidding me... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> SPAM?! HERE?! :-| +</I> + +They're everywhere. + +(sigh) + +Doug + +-- + +Ben Franklin quote: + +"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005615.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005617.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005617.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005617.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff8dc09fb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005617.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201110102136.26202.cooker%40solbu.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005616.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005613.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)</H1> + <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%28no%20subject%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201110102136.26202.cooker%40solbu.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] (no subject)">cooker at solbu.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 21:36:16 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005616.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Meeting tomorrow +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday 10 October 2011 17:42, genomega wrote: +><i> hello! +</I> +I thought one had to be a member of the list in order to send mail here, +so why have -discus@, -dev@ and cooker@ forwarded this crap to the subscribers? + +-- +Johnny A. 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Remember, we all had to start +</I>><i> somewhere - why not invite new users to start with Mageia? Back in the +</I>><i> day, Mandrake had a reputation of being a good distro for newbies. +</I>><i> That's one of the things Mageia should continue. +</I> +With the problem of having experienced people leaving, because "mandrake +is a distribution for newbie, i am not a newbie, therefor, mandrake is +not for me". This surely helped debian or fedora to get contributers. + +I have too often seen "the distribution work fine, but I wanted to try +something else" ( or various stuff like summarized on +<A HREF="http://www.greenfly.org/mes.html">http://www.greenfly.org/mes.html</A> ), which is to say that the first +distribution never get the benefit of making people switch to free +software, which is bad. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005614.html">[Mageia-discuss] [doc-discuss] Meeting tomorrow +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005619.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005619.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..73cc020b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005619.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C1318282266.27877.5.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005611.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005621.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C1318282266.27877.5.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 23:31:06 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 à 17:40 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 16:34, Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > The goal should be rather that the user has less or no *need* to look at the +</I>><i> > help. But it needs to be there for safety and comfort. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, that's the point. Making the installer so the user can be +</I>><i> confident enough into it and shouldn't have to call for help (then +</I>><i> installer "story" would then anticipate potential fears). And still +</I>><i> make help available as a last resort. +</I> +But the installer can mess the disk. So it has to be scary enough so +people stop and think about what they do. + +That's the principle that were behind drakx explained to me in 2003 at +Mandrake, and it made sense. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005620.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005620.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1b1540af6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005620.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4186846.3KbBFLuRjj%40beteigeuze.oli-home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005618.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C4186846.3KbBFLuRjj%40beteigeuze.oli-home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 23:37:18 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2011, 23:29:08 schrieb Michael Scherer: +><i> With the problem of having experienced people leaving, because "mandrake +</I>><i> is a distribution for newbie, i am not a newbie, therefor, mandrake is +</I>><i> not for me". This surely helped debian or fedora to get contributers. +</I>><i> +</I>Yes, that's why I always pressed at the linux events I was present, that in +the past Mandrake/Mandriva and now Mageia is a distribution, that makes it +easy for newbies to start, but isn't holding back anything for experienced +users. +Other than yast did in the past and still does in parts, the draktools don't +overwrite any configuration but parses it correctly. + +We have to make it clear, that we do care about newbies but we don't "lay any +stones in the way" of experienced users. +After all, if we did, most of us wouldn't use it, would we? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005621.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005621.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d827e2657 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/005621.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C1824251.vpnTvppPgT%40beteigeuze.oli-home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="005619.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="005612.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20review%20with%20bad%20experience&In-Reply-To=%3C1824251.vpnTvppPgT%40beteigeuze.oli-home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 10 23:39:24 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005612.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am Montag, 10. Oktober 2011, 23:31:06 schrieb Michael Scherer: +><i> Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 à 17:40 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>><i> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 16:34, Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > The goal should be rather that the user has less or no *need* to +</I>><i> > > look at the help. But it needs to be there for safety and comfort. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Yes, that's the point. Making the installer so the user can be +</I>><i> > confident enough into it and shouldn't have to call for help (then +</I>><i> > installer "story" would then anticipate potential fears). And still +</I>><i> > make help available as a last resort. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But the installer can mess the disk. So it has to be scary enough so +</I>><i> people stop and think about what they do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's the principle that were behind drakx explained to me in 2003 at +</I>><i> Mandrake, and it made sense. +</I>And it still does. +People are reading pages over pages of documentation on their nes washing +machines, but expect not to have to do any reading on a complex thing like a +computer and an operating system. +That's one of the main problems nowadays.. + +Oliver +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005612.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c8d995881 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20111010/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 10 October 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>10 October 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Oct 10 00:08:49 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 10 23:39:24 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 19<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="005613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Meeting tomorrow +</A><A NAME="5613"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005614.html">[Mageia-discuss] [doc-discuss] Meeting tomorrow +</A><A NAME="5614"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A><A NAME="5620"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A><A NAME="5621"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005615.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="5615"> </A> +<I>Bogdan CAZACU +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A><A NAME="5605"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A><A NAME="5603"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005616.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="5616"> </A> +<I>Doug Lytle +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="5606"> </A> +<I>Gary Montalbine +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Live CD +</A><A NAME="5609"> </A> +<I>Gary Montalbine +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A><A NAME="5610"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Network connection at install time +</A><A NAME="5608"> </A> +<I>Antoine Pitrou +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A><A NAME="5618"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia review with bad experience +</A><A NAME="5619"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="005617.html">[Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="5617"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. 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