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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Tue Oct 4 17:54:25 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 4 octobre 2011 17:46:24, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 09/16/2011 01:29 PM, philippe makowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You may know it or not, many packages have no maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; isn't time to set up teams ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not keep the original message - what has happened in the meantime?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - has the goal concerning the number of maintainers been reached?
+</I>
+The actual Goal is 0 unmaintained packages. We managed to drop it from
+approximatively 5000 to 2900, not bad but not enough yet.
+
+&gt;<i> - is CERBERUS still on a thick chain of tungsten (I hope!)?
+</I>
+Yes, this is the kind of solution that would happen only when everything else
+has been tried, I think.
+
+&gt;<i> - what about the list of packages and their state of maintenance?
+</I>&gt;<i> - is there any follow-up?
+</I>
+You'll find everything in the mageia-dev mailing list archives, I post regular
+reports.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This issue is essential for the future of Mageia - Mageia must have a
+</I>&gt;<i> list of maintained packages that compares favourably to its competitor
+</I>&gt;<i> distros. I just saw a recent comment to bug 278: &quot; ... drakx-net does
+</I>&gt;<i> not have a maintainer ...&quot; - drakx food for Cerberos??? I think the idea
+</I>&gt;<i> to shout for new maintainers was excellent, and should be iterated. How
+</I>&gt;<i> about leaning on Mageia users that have competence, but are - so far -
+</I>&gt;<i> not actively involved? Magiea is a community distro!
+</I>
+Yes, the ultimate solution is to have more and more contributers, of course,
+we're already doing it with the mentoring program, but if you have ideas that
+you can apply to find more, please do :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could there be more information for such techy-newbies to motivate them,
+</I>&gt;<i> help them to jump down from the fence? Tell them what effort, what
+</I>&gt;<i> competence, what responsibility is implied by signing up? That is a
+</I>&gt;<i> long-term initiative! Nobody will reasonable start and immediately pick
+</I>&gt;<i> up tons of packages, I started with 2 (well, one of them is a set of
+</I>&gt;<i> packages). But only once I feel safe with that initial commitment I
+</I>&gt;<i> could consider taking more (which means a couple of months from now).
+</I>
+Yes, that's reasonable. The new wiki should be up soon, that kind of document
+will find its place there.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I realize, Mageia is doing exceedingly well, and there is no need to
+</I>&gt;<i> dramatize the situation - but it is not me who invented Cerberos ... And
+</I>&gt;<i> the people who did Mageia 1 should have their hands free for doing
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 rather than polishing up old stuff.
+</I>
+I don't understand this last sentence. Do you mean we shouldn't maintain
+Mageia 1? I think this is not what you mean, but then I don't understand.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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