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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.">davidwhodgins at gmail.com
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+<PRE>On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:48:48 -0400, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Do you have a FAQ about testing, or a How-to?
+</I>
+You have to install siproxd on a host that has direct
+internet access, and provides access to other hosts
+on a lan, via another network intface.
+
+First, update the Core Testing repository with
+urpmi.update &quot;Core Updates Testing (distrib5)&quot;
+
+Then install siproxd
+urpmi --media &quot;Core Updates Testing (distrib5)&quot; siproxd
+
+Edit /etc/siproxd.conf. You should only have to set
+if_inbound and, if_outbound, and possibly host_outbound.
+
+Then you have to configure the firewall, and possibly router,
+to forward the needed ports.
+
+I found some info at
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/siproxd.txt">http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/siproxd.txt</A>
+and
+<A HREF="http://wiki.openwrt.org/doku.php?id=oldwiki:sipwithtransparentproxyandnokiae61howto">http://wiki.openwrt.org/doku.php?id=oldwiki:sipwithtransparentproxyandnokiae61howto</A>
+
+Then, to actually test it, use ekiga or any voip application on a
+system on the lan, with the sip outbound proxy set to the address
+of the system running siproxd.
+
+I tried to test it using a virtualbox guest, but ran into problems
+with the firewall settings, and ip address mangling.
+
+Thanks, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Juan R. de Silva</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:05:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 21 september 2011 11:32:24 schreef Claire Robinson:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 21/09/11 02:52, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; couple of others installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; should say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia exists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; soprano- plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586 -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; soprano- plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; my case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; not installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installed packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; this one:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; attempt I did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; good. Finally I could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; GRUB prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; on any key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; even Ctl- Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Plain dead system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; for a clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; few minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; At the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; system update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> light the now infamous bug 2317 -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be checked against.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> report this if you experience it!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the updated packages in rpmdrake instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> being worked on behind the scenes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry if you had a bad experience with this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> again, if there is bugs, try to confirm or give help.
+</I>
+Well, with the picture in hand I'd find it quite difficult to report any
+particular bug.
+
+The whole thing involves to many steps to go through and to identify what
+the problem actually was, and when, and what has happened.
+
+I still have an image of the partition with Mageia which was maid at the
+point initial update problem manifested itself reporting a number of
+files that cannot be selected. It would take me just several minutes to
+restore it. I would not mind to do it to help.
+
+However, I would do it only if I know exactly what and at which point
+would be in interest to report and provide being helpful to developers.
+If you or somebody else would be interested to guide me I could do it.
+
+There are only 3 obstacles here. First I'm a GNOME user, so I know little
+about KDE. Second, I've never used neither Mandriva nor certainly Mageia
+before and know about them even less. And third, I'm going to be quite
+busy next month, so there might be some delays in my participation.
+
+If all the above is OK, then I could commit to do it.
+
+&gt;<i> btw: with the grub issue it would be interesting if you could report it
+</I>&gt;<i> and post the /root/drakx/install.log file in it. perhaps something odd
+</I>&gt;<i> happened during the install.
+</I>
+I could report the file content but I'm afraid it would be of a little
+value, since its timestamp is 2011.08.09 when the crash happened on
+2011.09.20. So, the file contains only an outdated information.
+
+&gt;<i> btw: was it installed using DVD or liveCD?
+</I>
+Sincerely I do not recall. I did not pay attention to details at that
+point, since all I wanted was to give Mageia a try. However I more
+inclined to think it was a liveCD.
+
+The installation was simple. I just accepted all defaults, except the
+location of / and location of GRUB installation. I installed Mageia on a
+separate partition and installed GRUB on the same partition. My Ubuntu
+Lucid was chainloding it. Typical multiboot install. It worked fine up to
+the system update as I described.
+
+Personally, I suspect Mageia had trouble with the GRUB being installed
+not to MBR but in its own partition. But this is a pure speculation.
+
+Another thing to mention. The first time I get the first complains while
+trying to update the system was quite a long time ago, about over a
+month. Since Mageia for was just a &quot;test drive&quot;, I left it as it was. So,
+yesterday's update was quite a massive one. If I remember correctly
+something close to 350-400MB.
+
+
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+ <B>Juan R. de Silva</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:52:21 +0000, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;<i> purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;<i> several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> of others installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+</I>&gt;<i> say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586 -
+</I>&gt;<i> task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+</I>&gt;<i> case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;<i> happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+</I>&gt;<i> one:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+</I>&gt;<i> did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+</I>&gt;<i> could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;<i> dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+</I>&gt;<i> prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+</I>&gt;<i> key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+</I>&gt;<i> Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+</I>&gt;<i> dead system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+</I>&gt;<i> clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+</I>&gt;<i> the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+</I>&gt;<i> update.
+</I>
+Well, it looks to be solved for now. At least a kind of... What I mean
+I've succeeded to boot the system.
+
+Last time I tried to restore GRUB for 'grub' prompt. And it was in vain.
+Just now I did it differently. I booted from SystemRescueCD and tried
+'grub-install --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sdaX'. It failed complaining not
+finding /boot and/or block device (something like this).
+
+Then I mounted Mageia's / to /mnt and executed:
+
+'grub-install -no-floppy --recheck --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdaX'
+
+This time it was a success and I can boot now. I tried 'urpmi --test --
+auto-update' and get 'nothing to update'. So, I would be curious to see
+what happens at the next update.
+
+However I still consider it &quot;a kind of solved&quot; since the source of the
+problem was not revealed. Thus there is still some bug presented. Though
+it might be resolved after last update. We'll see.
+
+Thanks to all replied.
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+
+What I wanted to know too, is: can you use a tester who only tried Ekiga
+about 5 yrs ago, but gave up the SIP-accounts we had back then, because
+we could barely understand one another: it wasn't any better than
+listening to a far away AM radiostation after dusk with a thunderstorm
+ruining the signal.
+
+Well, I guess a tester without sip-experience is better than no tester
+at all.
+
+I'll do my best, I've already seen I can register for a free sip account
+on sip2sip.info
+
+I'm short on time today, I think it'll be tomorrow that I test siproxd
+
+
+
+Op 22-09-11 02:49, David W. Hodgins schreef:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:48:48 -0400, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have a FAQ about testing, or a How-to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You have to install siproxd on a host that has direct
+</I>&gt;<i> internet access, and provides access to other hosts
+</I>&gt;<i> on a lan, via another network intface.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, update the Core Testing repository with
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi.update &quot;Core Updates Testing (distrib5)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then install siproxd
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi --media &quot;Core Updates Testing (distrib5)&quot; siproxd
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Edit /etc/siproxd.conf. You should only have to set
+</I>&gt;<i> if_inbound and, if_outbound, and possibly host_outbound.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then you have to configure the firewall, and possibly router,
+</I>&gt;<i> to forward the needed ports.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I found some info at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/siproxd.txt">http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/siproxd.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.openwrt.org/doku.php?id=oldwiki:sipwithtransparentproxyandnokiae61howto">http://wiki.openwrt.org/doku.php?id=oldwiki:sipwithtransparentproxyandnokiae61howto</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, to actually test it, use ekiga or any voip application on a
+</I>&gt;<i> system on the lan, with the sip outbound proxy set to the address
+</I>&gt;<i> of the system running siproxd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to test it using a virtualbox guest, but ran into problems
+</I>&gt;<i> with the firewall settings, and ip address mangling.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Well, I guess a tester without sip-experience is better than no tester
+</I>&gt;<i> at all.
+</I>
+Thanks. I would test it myself, if I had the hardware needed to run
+the tests, or the knowledge to figure out how to test is with the
+hardware/software I do have. I don't, and as far as I know, none of
+the other qa members do. So we either have to find people to test it,
+or accept that we can only test that it installs without conflicts.
+
+If we can't find testers with the needed hardware, we will let the
+update go through as long as it installs without conflicts, but would
+really prefer to avoid doing that.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+
+There is an updated package for lirc (lirc-0.9.0-1.1.mga1) in Core
+Updates Testing.
+
+It has been checked x86_64 but so far we have been unable to properly
+test it i586 with the hardware we have ourselves.
+
+Is anybody able to test it please?
+
+Please see bug 2661 at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2661">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2661</A>
+
+Many Thanks
+
+MrsB
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+ <B>xi</B>
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+I have changed my motherboard and Mageia now refuses to boot (kernel
+panic after trying to mount /dev/sda1 : &quot;waiting for device sda1 to
+appear (timeout 1 min), ...&quot;).
+
+I think I know the reason of my problem : the initrd does not load the
+correct driver for my &quot;new&quot; IDE controller, so it can't mount my disk
+(driver for old motherboard is pata_amd and new driver is pata_via).
+
+I tried to play with mageia rescue CD, but I am unable to regenerate the
+initrd with the correct IDE driver (in fact, the rescue CD doesn't even
+contain the mkinitrd command).
+My question is : how can I solve my problem, given that I have only one
+rescue CD and my HD containing mageia that don't boot anymore ?
+
+
+A long time ago in the perfect world of Mandrake (:P), all IDE
+controller were included _inside_ the kernel and _not_ compiled as
+modules*, so this problem never occured because all IDE drivers were
+always &quot;loaded&quot; (thus allowing my system to be booted on any computer).
+
+Now that the ide/sata drivers as compiled as modules, why don't the
+initrd try to load all the ATA drivers if mounting of &quot;/&quot; fails ?
+(from my point of view, it is a much better solution than failing with a
+kernel panic ...)
+
+
+Thanks for your help,
+Xavier
+
+*this is _my_ interpretation, I may be wrong.
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+
+I note today the following:
+
+If I run Konqueror by clicking on a desktop folder, or by typing &quot;konqueror&quot;
+in a console, all is well.
+
+But if I run it by choosing Open with File Manager on a USB drive in Device
+Notifier, or if I type &quot;konqueror&quot; in the desktop Run Command window, I get a
+number of error messages:
+
+There was an error loading the module Sidebar.
+The diagnostics is:
+The plugin 'konq_sidebar' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+
+and (twice)
+
+There was an error loading the module Dolphin View.
+The diagnostics is:
+The plugin 'dolphinpart' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+
+then Konqueror opens in Files Size View mode, and remains stuck in that mode,
+the error messaages repeat if I try to change the View Mode to Icon or
+Detail..
+
+In the first case, Help =&gt; About Konqueror tells me it is
+Konqueror
+Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+
+in the second it is
+Konqueror
+Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.3 (4.6.3)
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ In real love you want the other person's good.
+ In romantic love you want the other person.
+ -- Margaret Anderson
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>John Balcaen</B>
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+<PRE>2011/9/22 Renaud (Ron) Olgiati &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Yesterday I ran the update applet on my x86-64 installation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I note today the following:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I run Konqueror by clicking on a desktop folder, or by typing &quot;konqueror&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> in a console, all is well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But if I run it by choosing Open with File Manager on a USB drive in Device
+</I>&gt;<i> Notifier, or if I type &quot;konqueror&quot; in the desktop Run Command window, I get a
+</I>&gt;<i> number of error messages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was an error loading the module Sidebar.
+</I>&gt;<i> The diagnostics is:
+</I>&gt;<i> The plugin 'konq_sidebar' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and (twice)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was an error loading the module Dolphin View.
+</I>&gt;<i> The diagnostics is:
+</I>&gt;<i> The plugin 'dolphinpart' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then Konqueror opens in Files Size View mode, and remains stuck in that mode,
+</I>&gt;<i> the error messaages repeat if I try to change the View Mode to Icon or
+</I>&gt;<i> Detail..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the first case, Help =&gt; About Konqueror tells me it is
+</I>&gt;<i> Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i> Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the second it is
+</I>&gt;<i> Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i> Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.3 (4.6.3)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'll check locally later today to see if i can reproduce.
+In all case there were no tarball release of konq-plugins 4.6.5 by
+KDE, i'll generate one since after a fast look on the git repository
+there's some bugs fixed in the 4.6.5 tag so i'll push them as update
+
+
+--
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+<PRE>Am 22.09.2011 17:48, schrieb Renaud (Ron) Olgiati:
+&gt;<i> Yesterday I ran the update applet on my x86-64 installation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I note today the following:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I run Konqueror by clicking on a desktop folder, or by typing &quot;konqueror&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> in a console, all is well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But if I run it by choosing Open with File Manager on a USB drive in Device
+</I>&gt;<i> Notifier, or if I type &quot;konqueror&quot; in the desktop Run Command window, I get a
+</I>&gt;<i> number of error messages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was an error loading the module Sidebar.
+</I>&gt;<i> The diagnostics is:
+</I>&gt;<i> The plugin 'konq_sidebar' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and (twice)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was an error loading the module Dolphin View.
+</I>&gt;<i> The diagnostics is:
+</I>&gt;<i> The plugin 'dolphinpart' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.6.5 (4.6.5)).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then Konqueror opens in Files Size View mode, and remains stuck in that mode,
+</I>&gt;<i> the error messaages repeat if I try to change the View Mode to Icon or
+</I>&gt;<i> Detail..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the first case, Help =&gt; About Konqueror tells me it is
+</I>&gt;<i> Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i> Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the second it is
+</I>&gt;<i> Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5)
+</I>&gt;<i> Using KDE Development Platform 4.6.3 (4.6.3)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>You have logged out and back in again or restarted, if there was some bigger
+or partial KDE update?
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 16:35 my mailbox was graced by a message from Florian
+Hubold who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> You have logged out and back in again or restarted,
+</I>
+No
+
+&gt;<i> if there was some bigger or partial KDE update?
+</I>
+No idea, just updated all without looking at the details.
+
+Did a shutdown -r now and konqueror now behaves properly whatever the way it
+is started.
+
+Except that, when started in a konsole, it spews a mort of messages:
+
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+- The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+.service files&quot;
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+name&quot;
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+- The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+.service files&quot;
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+name&quot;
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+- The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+.service files&quot;
+&quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+name&quot;
+konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;dolphin&quot; with
+KXMLGUIFactory!
+konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;gwenview&quot; with
+KXMLGUIFactory!
+konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;&quot; with
+KXMLGUIFactory!
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Le bon sens est la chose du monde la mieux partagee,
+ car chacun pense en etre bien pourvu.
+ -- Rene Descartes
+
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+&gt;<i> On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 16:35 my mailbox was graced by a message from Florian
+</I>&gt;<i> Hubold who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You have logged out and back in again or restarted,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if there was some bigger or partial KDE update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No idea, just updated all without looking at the details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did a shutdown -r now and konqueror now behaves properly whatever the way it
+</I>&gt;<i> is started.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Except that, when started in a konsole, it spews a mort of messages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+</I>&gt;<i> - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+</I>&gt;<i> .service files&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+</I>&gt;<i> name&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+</I>&gt;<i> - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+</I>&gt;<i> .service files&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+</I>&gt;<i> name&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
+</I>&gt;<i> - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any
+</I>&gt;<i> .service files&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/usr/bin/konqueror(6437)&quot; Soprano: &quot;QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
+</I>&gt;<i> name&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;dolphin&quot; with
+</I>&gt;<i> KXMLGUIFactory!
+</I>&gt;<i> konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;gwenview&quot; with
+</I>&gt;<i> KXMLGUIFactory!
+</I>&gt;<i> konqueror(6437)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction &quot;&quot; with
+</I>&gt;<i> KXMLGUIFactory!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>
+Try starting like this -&gt; dbus-launch konqueror and see what it reports
+back.
+
+
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+<PRE>Le Jeudi 22 Septembre 2011 17:05:34 Renaud Olgiati a &#233;crit :
+[...]
+&gt;<i> No idea, just updated all without looking at the details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did a shutdown -r now and konqueror now behaves properly whatever the
+</I>&gt;<i> way it is started.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Except that, when started in a konsole, it spews a mort of messages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+
+
+nepomuk is not started.
+
+--
+Balcaen John
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+</I>&gt;<i> Man, i didn't know it was that big ;-)
+</I>
+No that is in Britanny; but we are now leaving the realm of Mageia, and
+entering quasi-theological debate ;-3)
+
+Cheers,
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+Ron.
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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing</H1>
+ <B>Gary Montalbine</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing">gmontalbine at cox.net
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+ <I>Thu Sep 22 23:01:23 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>At the end of September I mentioned that gwenview print ass't did not
+print the photos with the proper color. I have included the gimp photo.
+This was used in both ML and Mageia. The ML printed image and the Mageia
+printed image are also included. I used print ass't in both. The mageia
+image shows poor color. There is too much red.
+
+I had to reinstall ML2010.2 to print good quality photos via gwenview
+and print ass't..
+
+I just did a retest since hplip was updated. I did a minimal install on
+a flash drive and then an update of all installed software. Around 500
+updates. I then reprinted the gimppic using print ass't in Gwenview and
+gutenberg print in gimp. They both produced the same unsatisfactory
+photos as before and shown as mmageia.jpg.
+
+It appears I may be the only one with this problem. I wonder if it might
+be the hplip drivers. I am using a HP Photosmart Plus 209a-m. I think I
+remember seeing 209a-c listed in Mageia.
+
+I am forced to remain with ML2010.2 because of the printing issue.
+
+Thanks, Gary
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+<LI><A HREF="005449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
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+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005441.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005450.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Didier MENE
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing
+</A><A NAME="5521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005451.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005452.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Duane Phinney
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005446.html">[Mageia-discuss] i586 Testers needed for lirc
+</A><A NAME="5446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005438.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005439.html">[Mageia-discuss] [SOLVED] Re: troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
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+<LI><A HREF="005447.html">[Mageia-discuss] System won't boot after hardware upgrade
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+<I>xi
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+<LI><A HREF="005437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005438.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005439.html">[Mageia-discuss] [SOLVED] Re: troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005441.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Didier MENE
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005447.html">[Mageia-discuss] System won't boot after hardware upgrade
+</A><A NAME="5447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>xi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005446.html">[Mageia-discuss] i586 Testers needed for lirc
+</A><A NAME="5446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005450.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing
+</A><A NAME="5521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005451.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005452.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Duane Phinney
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
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+<I>Balcaen John
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+<LI><A HREF="005439.html">[Mageia-discuss] [SOLVED] Re: troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing
+</A><A NAME="5521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005446.html">[Mageia-discuss] i586 Testers needed for lirc
+</A><A NAME="5446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005450.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005451.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005452.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Duane Phinney
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005447.html">[Mageia-discuss] System won't boot after hardware upgrade
+</A><A NAME="5447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>xi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005441.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005438.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Didier MENE
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
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+<I>David W. Hodgins
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+</A><A NAME="5444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
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+<!--0 01316652578- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
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+<!--1 01316652578-01316668496- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
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+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
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+<!--2 01316652578-01316668496-01316675010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005441.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
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+<!--0 01316655780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005438.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316659978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005439.html">[Mageia-discuss] [SOLVED] Re: troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316676225- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Didier MENE
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+<!--1 01316676225-01316676607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01316676225-01316687596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Un subcrib
+</A><A NAME="5444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316685079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005447.html">[Mageia-discuss] System won't boot after hardware upgrade
+</A><A NAME="5447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>xi
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316700659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
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+<!--1 01316700659-01316702434- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316703984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005446.html">[Mageia-discuss] i586 Testers needed for lirc
+</A><A NAME="5446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316706521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316706521-01316707970- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01316706521-01316723721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005450.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316706521-01316723721-01316725534- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005451.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01316706521-01316723721-01316725534-01316726779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005452.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Duane Phinney
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01316706521-01316723721-01316725534-01316727304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Strange behaviour after update
+</A><A NAME="5453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316725283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gimp , Gwenview printing
+</A><A NAME="5521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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