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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+ <I>Sat Sep 17 09:56:10 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 09/16/2011 10:43 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> This is exactly why Stormi's idea is a great one, welcome i should say: look
+</I>&gt;<i> around for a mentor, ask andre999 about it (he's the mentoring coordinator)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I will. And sorry, my message went away from my drafts folder
+accidentally before it was spelled out risks to sound crude. Some more
+details on my thoughts (and picking up what has been said about creating
+groups):
+
+(1) Stormi's idea is particularly adapted to a community distro - and I
+agree, if community members (nearly) at large contribute to package
+maintenance, they may need some backing up. Doing this by organising
+groups on the basis of implementation languages may be very helpful
+while looking for maintainers. Once the work goes on, there may be more
+specific needs. Take my example: with backuppc I might come on questions
+to people who know the wheels in apache, or with geda I might need
+putting straight with GUI questions. Might be a good idea to put some
+thought into organising that - maybe just a slight twist to the mageia
+dev mailing list (and maybe after an initial period of gathering
+experience).
+
+(2) I have had a close look at the package list: throwing out &quot;nobody&quot;
+packages in an un-organised way, just following considerations whether
+incidentlally a package has been picked up or not, risks crippling
+Mageia into a distro that does not stand up to other distros (just look
+at editors - a distro without ed, sed, emax, xemacs ?) Before the
+cerberos comes with a big guillotine, there should at least be a first
+phase when a list of &quot;absolutely required packages&quot; has been defined,
+for which maintainers need to be actively defined (using thumb screws,
+chantage - what is the english word? - if need be) - and this might work
+better once the present search for volonteers has established a broader
+base of known candidates. That requires some time - a 1-week cerberos
+would not allow for that.
+
+(3) Again with the example of backuppc and geda in mind: both have
+strong upstream activities, active and competent mailing lists. I have
+no idea, how traditionally maintainership is organised in front of such
+a background. I will certainly need to sign up for these lists (again -
+I quit after an initial phase - too much traffic). Do down-stream
+distros have a particular standing with upstream parents?
+
+(4) Apropos &quot;I have no idea&quot;: it might be helpful if a few lines of text
+would exist that describe the duties and the normal way of &quot;functioning&quot;
+of a maintainer.
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