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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Am 12.09.2011 11:36, schrieb andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KevinO a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/11/2011 05:05 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Installed Mageia 1 on an external HD, work a treat; glad I did,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enables me to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrtie this !
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I then trie to upgrade my Mdv 2010.2 system, from the Mageia 1 DVD, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade failed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do not 'upgrade'. Do a clean install. (This has been stated here
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repeatedly.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but that is not true.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia 1 DVD was _designed_ to upgrade mdv 2010.2, and worked
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> flawlessly on my portable. (Much better than any recent mdv upgrade.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, it will (likely) not work if you try to update using a USB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2.0 optical drive.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably because the USB interface to an optical drive is too slow.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (I tried that initially, without thinking, as my portable will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> write DVD's.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depending on your Mandriva installation and if you had backports enabled,
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade will fail. There are some blockers, f.ex. hplip, which is 3.11.5
+</I>&gt;<i> for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva and only 3.11.3a for Mageia 1. Also some backports can make the
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade fail.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are numerous forum posts and bugreports about that.
+</I>
+I took a look at the bug reports.
+1) Updates from mdv2010.1|2 to cauldron were never expected to work.
+2) Updates online are always prone to failure. It is advisable to upgrade from
+a local source.
+3) One bug was a failure due to a missing /tmp file, which is required by
+mkinitrd. But simply creating the missing /tmp and redoing the update worked.
+ Indicating that it wasn't a flaw in the update process itself.
+4) Which leaves one bug :
+ A package not properly updated due to the use of symlinks. In my experience,
+symlinks are generally not recognized in release updates. (I've always had to
+recreate them. So I've eliminated most such cases)
+
+So essentially 1 possible mdv2010.1-to-mga1 release update bug, depending on
+how you look at it.
+
+In my view, it is inadvisable to activate backports during a release update.
+Leaving them active for automatic update is somewhat like using cauldron.
+(I think selective installation of backports is much saner.)
+
+I don't see how having a later version of hplip already installed would cause a
+problem. In my release update, existing packages with a more recent version
+were simply left in place. (There is a bug with this in the title, but it is
+not referring to a release update. I think they accidently put Mandriva
+instead of Mageia in the title.)
+
+Also, I do my release updates from DVD, offline. Then I go online for updates.
+ I find fewer problems that way. (Partly because my Internet connexion is not
+always reliable.)
+
+So I still consider an upgrade from mdv 2010.1 or 2010.2 to mga1 (release) to
+be advisable, as long as it is done prudently.
+With possibly a few very rare exceptions.
+The case of symlink problems doesn't preclude update, since anyone knowledgable
+enough to set up such a symlink would presumably be able to readily fix it.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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