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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:27:18 Xuo wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 01/09/2011 20:06, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:06:05PM +0200, Xuo wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've just installed mageia-1 with the minimal number of packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (without urpmi) as it is possible to select during install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could purely for of my curiosity, what do you use Mageia for that you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; want as little disk space usage as possible?
+</I>
+Note that virtualised environments also benefit from small footprints, where
+the number of VMs is normally limited by memory and disk space (unless one has
+the luxury of large and fast SAN).
+
+
+&gt;<i> I just want to have a server for nfs shares, music shares, ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> connections, web server, roundcube mail server, ftp server, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that now a days, 660Mb of disk space is not a problem (and it is
+</I>&gt;<i> not really for me, except that I'll have to format my root partition
+</I>&gt;<i> because /usr/share size really increases).
+</I>&gt;<i> My question is just a question of principle. Why use 660Mb when less
+</I>&gt;<i> could be enough ? As I said, Freenas is about 100Mb
+</I>
+Are they using an old version of samba? Modern (3.3 and later I think) are
+quite big, and the various samba utilities, many of which should be required,
+come to very close to 100MB ...
+
+&gt;<i> and it is based on
+</I>&gt;<i> Debian. I think it could be possible to achieve something like this
+</I>&gt;<i> (without the drakxtools).
+</I>
+AFAIK, impossible to get under 100MB, unless we ship old, unsupported versions
+of samba with known vulnerabilities.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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+&gt;<i> Le 31/08/2011 22:32, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op woensdag 31 augustus 2011 21:06:05 schreef Xuo:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've just installed mageia-1 with the minimal number of packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (without urpmi) as it is possible to select during install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Then the required disk space used is about 660Mb !!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am not a specialist, but isn't it possible to have a &quot;real&quot; minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; number of packages installed ? For example, FreeNas is about 100Mb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; large. I can give the list of the installed packages but I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; which ones I could remove (if it is possible to remove any of them).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For me, the minimal list should be :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * main commands (ls, mkdir, ...) + rpm (+urpmi for non-specialists !!)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * ssh + nfs network
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Then I could add all packages I want, one by one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Xuo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yes, --no-suggests does remove alot of packages, but it's still too much,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; personally i plan to work on this, to make it smaller, but i've having
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some other priorities first...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I did is :
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi_rpm-find-leaves
+</I>&gt;<i> then :
+</I>&gt;<i> urpme of all packages except basesystem, urpmi, openssh-server, msec,
+</I>&gt;<i> locales-fr, and tcsh (I found this in a Mandriva forum).
+</I>&gt;<i> The disk space is still of about 450Mb (better than the initial 660Mb).
+</I>&gt;<i> When I add samba-server and samba-client, it increases up to 550Mb.
+</I>&gt;<i> When I add msec-gui, it goes up to 650Mb.
+</I>
+YOu may want to look at the relevant bug reports, e.g.:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609</A>
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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+<PRE>On Friday, September 02, 2011 01:22:10 AM Buchan Milne wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:27:18 Xuo wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; I just want to have a server for nfs shares, music shares, ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connections, web server, roundcube mail server, ftp server, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree that now a days, 660Mb of disk space is not a problem (and it is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not really for me, except that I'll have to format my root partition
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because /usr/share size really increases).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My question is just a question of principle. Why use 660Mb when less
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could be enough ? As I said, Freenas is about 100Mb
+</I>
+&gt;<i> AFAIK, impossible to get under 100MB, unless we ship old, unsupported
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of samba with known vulnerabilities.
+</I>
+The distribution named Damn Small Linux claims to be consistently under 50 MB
+in size, and the Linux From Scratch page states that it is not difficult to get
+an LFS installation under 100 MB. Perhaps an examination of these projects'
+work would illuminate possibilities for some Mageia installation options.
+
+Another thought that occurs is that the kernel itself might be trimmed of
+otherwise unused code in particular installations. However, making that
+process safer and less intimidating for users may be an interesting challenge.
+
+
+Ken
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+I've pushed new libjpeg with turbo flavour[1]. If there are crashes or
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+[1]:<A HREF="http://www.libjpeg-turbo.org/">http://www.libjpeg-turbo.org/</A>
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+<I>Kenneth Marcy
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+<LI><A HREF="005121.html">[Mageia-discuss] ANN: libjpeg-turbo landing
+</A><A NAME="5121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
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+<LI><A HREF="005119.html">[Mageia-discuss] Minimal package number at first install
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+<I>Buchan Milne
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+<LI><A HREF="005118.html">[Mageia-discuss] Minimal package number at first install
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+<I>Buchan Milne
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+<I>Kenneth Marcy
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+<LI><A HREF="005121.html">[Mageia-discuss] ANN: libjpeg-turbo landing
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