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For me a system is a whole. If I have one insecure part +</I>>><i> the whole system is insecure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's getting really off-topic. If you arguing that nobody should skip +</I>><i> any security update, then please make a proposal to make those +</I>><i> updates automatic and without user confirmation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If OTOH Mageia asks the user to confirm updates manually (which it +</I>><i> currently *does*), then my request makes sense. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> As has been said, you can safely remove suggested packages, so this +</I>>><i> question about updates of suggested packages does not come up in the +</I>>><i> first place. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's another loss of time. Why should I bother removing many packages +</I>><i> by hand from my system? I don't lack disk space. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You are requesting that I dedicate a lot of time administrating and +</I>><i> tweaking my system. Well if I wanted to do that I'd install Debian, +</I>><i> Gentoo or FreeBSD. There's a reason I use Mageia, which is to have a +</I>><i> system which is user-friendly by default and doesn't ask for a lot of +</I>><i> manual intervention. Being able to review updates without first typing +</I>><i> a password is also part of that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Antoine. +</I> +With the right adjustement of the present tools, you could spend less time on +administration than you do now. Since updates are part of system administration. + +Suppose during the update process you have a check box to put a particular +update on the skip list, or another to uninstall the corresponding package. +If the package is uninstalled, you would no longer have to deal with updates to +it, so the update process would be faster. +Note that if you can't uninstall a package because it is required, it is usually +inadvisable skip updates, unless you really understand the issues. +If you don't have a limited bandwidth, there is usually no disadvantage to +installing all updates for such packages. + +Changing when the password is requested would reduce the security for the +system, as unauthorised users could see what is installed. This may not affect +you personnally, but such an option would best not be the default, to protect +other systems. So it could be more complicated than the changes suggested +above, and would only save you a few seconds. + +Regards +-- +André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004880.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageiaupdate and the list of updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004883.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageiaupdate and the list of updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4882">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4882">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4882">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4882">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |