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Will Mageia ever have +</I>>><i> those in the DVD or will it keep the "free" kind of version that +</I>>><i> Mandriva has? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If it was for me, I would include them but I don't know about the +</I>>><i> original reasons of why they are not. +</I> +In my mind, misplaced ideology. The arguments were that non-free drivers should not be on a +nominally "free" dvd. I say nominally because even the kernel contains technically non-free code. + +Let's make the focus "working out of the box". +If that means including non-free drivers where a reliable free driver does not exist, so be it. +After all, these proprietary drivers are to make the user's proprietary hardware work properly. +And if a reliable free driver exists, of course we wouldn't include the proprietary driver. + +The purists can be accommodated by warnings which would require their confirmation to install any +required non-free software. +The last thing we need is driving potential users away from Mageia (and Linux in general) by an +installation that doesn't work properly. + +><i> The T42 they used is quite old, and that model of IBM Thinkpad had +</I>><i> a problematic Radeon card - I had loads of trouble with mine under +</I>><i> Mandriva, even when using the proprietary drivers. +</I> +The review pointed out that after an Internet search which identified the needed driver, they +downloaded the proprietary driver, which worked properly. So it was _not_ a hardware problem. +Note that this would have been a difficult problem to solve for the average new Linux user. + +They summarized : +"Overall, our opinion is that this first release of Mageia does what the team set out to do. Namely +to build a clean and attractive derivative of Mandriva. Now, if the developers will revisit their +decision not to distribute proprietary video software drivers on the installation media for those +users who need them, we'd say that Mageia seems to have bright future ahead of it." + +So let's eliminate this negative. + +><i> I remember seeing loads of discussion about proprietary binary-only +</I>><i> stuff on this very list, several times. I think most of it can now be +</I>><i> found in the Tainted repos (that's where I found the codecs I +</I>><i> needed). It's a legal issue - there are potential Mageia users in +</I>><i> every country, and differences between licensing issues are very real. +</I> +This is not related to patent or legal issues, as can be found with codecs. +These drivers are freely redistributable but the manufacturers don't provide the source code, so +they are in the non-free repositories. + +my 2 cents :) +-- +André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Nice review! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4709">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4709">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4709">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4709">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |