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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>Looks weird; picking up this discussion I verified on my laptop
+- the snd_hda_intel driver is loaded
+- task-pulseaudio is not installed
+- but a lot of &quot;...pulse...&quot; packages are installed (see list at the
+ end of this message (all installed without asking for it)
+- sound &quot;works&quot;
+- I remember (about 2 weeks ago) to have seen warning popups
+ at desktop startup that sound was reverting for some reason
+ to alse (I did not pursue this at the time) - recently no more
+ messages.
+
+I agree: waiting for alpha-2 before spending time on this issue is a
+good idea, but: regularly installing updates from core/release, does
+this not practically automatically promote our installation to alpha-2?
+
+-------------
+
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harms at ltjuergen</A> ~&gt; rpm -qa | grep pulse
+libpulseglib20-0.9.22-4.mga1
+pulseaudio-client-config-0.9.22-4.mga1
+libpulsezeroconf0-0.9.22-4.mga1
+libpulseaudio0-0.9.22-4.mga1
+alsa-plugins-pulse-config-1.0.23-3.mga1
+pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.22-4.mga1
+libalsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.23-3.mga1
+pulseaudio-0.9.22-4.mga1
+libpulseaudio-devel-0.9.22-4.mga1
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 &#224; 21:51 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 17:07:13 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have compared the laptop installation with the desktop installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; missing and why.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is odd, because i tried a laptop installation and the sound worked,
+</I>&gt;<i> (allthough i was just too quiet).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i also have the snd_hda_intel driver
+</I>
+Given the fact that hda is a specification rather than a type of
+hardware ( <A HREF="http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm">http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm</A> ), it is
+quite unsurprising to have different result with different hardware.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>I delayed this issue for quiet times - this may be a good moment:
+
+When configuring / (dis)connecting a wlan interface, the user interface
+to the network control center is not as &quot;bright&quot; as it could be: the
+user does not get enough feedback on the success of what he wants to be
+done.
+
+When you connect or dis-connect a wlan interface, a small
+&quot;(dis)connecting&quot; window pops up, and after some labour disappears again
+- that is all. The user would expect:
+
+ - that the icon in the &quot;Wireless (Wifi)... &quot; line (1st line of the
+ &quot;wlan&quot; section of the display be updated (icon with the red
+ checkbox if disconnected, transmitter icon if connected),
+
+ - the label of the &quot;Connect/Disconnect&quot; button (right bottom below
+ the display of available interfaces) be updated to reflect the
+ new state,
+
+ - the antenna-icon the selected line of the available interfaces be
+ updated (there is also some background shading that reflects the
+ state of the connection and is not updated).
+
+The popup window just goes away and leaves the display as it was before
+asking to change the state of the connection - the only way to verify
+success is to stop the network control center and launch it again - when
+it comes up again it will show the correct state.
+
+Is this a bug to be filed? - the network control center does not have a
+dys-function, but the user-interface &quot;is wrong&quot; (or is this a question
+of personal taste?)
+
+There is also a secondary issue with the choice of the icons: the
+&quot;disconnected&quot; icon is a transmitter with a single circle, the
+&quot;connected&quot; icon has several circles - all in light shades, not very
+well to discriminate form the lightly shaded background.
+
+Yet another improvement would be if the yellow popup you get when
+hovering over the network icon in the system tray would not only
+indicate details of the wired connection, but also those of a connected
+wlan - or is this an &quot;upstream&quot; issue? - and it is a clear wish for an
+enhancement.
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>Den 2011-03-04 10:28:54 skrev Juergen Harms:
+&gt;<i> When configuring / (dis)connecting a wlan interface, the user interface
+</I>&gt;<i> to the network control center is not as &quot;bright&quot; as it could be: the
+</I>&gt;<i> user does not get enough feedback on the success of what he wants to be
+</I>&gt;<i> done.
+</I>
+My opinion too - feedback of wha tis going on is valuable.
+-Both in the icon, and maybe more status shown in the text popup when
+hoovering it?
+
+When creating the bug report, you can under the &quot;severity&quot; dropdown select
+Enhancement.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qa_bugzilla">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qa_bugzilla</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast
+</I>
+Well, it doesn't look like either MIB or Mandriva is going to release an
+upgrade to the 4.6 series until 2011.0 is released. At least, not that
+I've read.
+
+Doug
+
+--
+
+Ben Franklin quote:
+
+&quot;Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+&gt;<i> i have this card internet
+</I>&gt;<i> r8169 : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.|RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (rev: 03)
+</I>&gt;<i> And with Mageia i did nt have any problem since yesterday that i dont have internet connexion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be connected i have to execute this commande:
+</I>&gt;<i> ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before (mandriva) i had this setting:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i created this file:
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.d/r8169.conf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with this content:
+</I>&gt;<i> # turn off autonegotiation on the r8169 ethernet driver
+</I>&gt;<i> install r8169 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install r8169 &amp;&amp; /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem is that now it does nt work and i have to run the command &quot;ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off&quot; manually
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is any other setting that i can to do have internet connexion on every boot, or to execute this command on boot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I added the command in the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and it is connected after reboot.
+/etc/rc.d/
+
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at localhost</A> ~]$ cat /etc/rc.d/rc.local
+#!/bin/sh
+#
+### BEGIN INIT INFO
+# Provides: rc.local
+# X-Mandriva-Compat-Mode
+# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
+# Short-Description: Local initialization script
+# Description: This script will be executed *after* all the other init scripts.
+# You can put your own initialization stuff in here if you don't
+# want to do the full Sys V style init stuff.
+### END INIT INFO
+
+touch /var/lock/subsys/local
+ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off
+
+I dont know if it is important but it has the word Mandriva this file
+
+
+--
+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 &#224; 21:51 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 17:07:13 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have compared the laptop installation with the desktop installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; missing and why.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is odd, because i tried a laptop installation and the sound worked,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (allthough i was just too quiet).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i also have the snd_hda_intel driver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given the fact that hda is a specification rather than a type of
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware ( <A HREF="http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm">http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm</A> ), it is
+</I>&gt;<i> quite unsurprising to have different result with different hardware.
+</I>
+yes, that is true, snd_hda_intel loads another codec module.
+
+except, how would this be related to &quot;sound after install without installing
+pulse-task-audio&quot; because this is only a kernel module difference, afaik?
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+say &quot;Linux Distribution stand for: Linux kernel, GNU tools and other
+softwares provided by a lot of others organizations&quot; , can be a good
+way of end in mageia with this discuss.
+
+If you decide to do a wiki page maybe you can list all or part of &quot;the
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok, KDE 4.6.1 is now build &amp; is on the way on various mirror.
+The only missing part are kde-l10n but they should be available soon
+(currently building)
+I'll push also digikam &amp; kipi-plugins.
+
+Regards,
+
+--
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+</A><A NAME="3870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003878.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003872.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003877.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003871.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003873.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 10:01:28 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003870.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003871.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003872.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003873.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003877.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003878.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 10:01:28 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003872.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003873.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003877.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003870.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003871.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003878.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 10:01:28 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01299229288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299229410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299229410-01299264391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299230934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003870.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299230934-01299243392- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003871.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299230934-01299243392-01299275087- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003878.html">[Mageia-discuss] User interface to the network control center
+</A><A NAME="3878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299251537- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003872.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299251537-01299252125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003873.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299251537-01299269952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003877.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299259600- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299264630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 22:44:47 CET 2011</i><br>
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