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+ <B>P. Christeas</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 23 February 2011, Andr&#233; Machado wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> T H E [ R E D ] A L L I A N C E
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ... which would be a global network where developers and users of these
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions could exchange knowledge and information and share resources
+</I>&gt;<i> to assist in developing mutual their distros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Sorry Pal.
+you come second.
+
+I've been shouting about that for the past 2 years. Even before Mandriva had
+dissolved.
+
+But, still, the choice of people was to go the SVN, isolated way of working.
+
+
+--
+Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows!
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>I have been wanting such a feature for a long time and have quite a bit
+played around with possible approaches.
+
+I agree with many things said
+
+- Such a tool can substantially shorten the time needed for customizing
+an out-of-the-box system.
+
+- A tool is better implemented as an pure application - outside of the
+framework of the core programs of a specific distro (I tried the
+toy-tools I had made also on, for instance) - so &quot;doing something&quot; is
+not necessarily tied to Mageia-1.
+
+- As to the list of items mentioned by Luc, there are three groups: OS
+customisation (for instance customizing files such as /etc/hosts or
+/etc/rsyncd.conf), application customisation (examples from Luc) and
+desktop customisation. OS customisation essentially is applying scripts
+- easy to do. Application customisation requires working on support
+files of the applications (such as .libreoffice/1/user/gallery) - less
+easy (often the use of template files is a good approach), desktop is
+essentially like applications but still more complicated - taking the
+example of the configuration files of kde4 illustrates that complicated
+may mean messy.
+
+- I have done some prototype building - essentially I ended up with a
+GUI in support of 2 different types of tools - user controlled execution
+of scripts, and plugins for tools for specific tasks - such as editing
+the boot menu. That is a toy, but it allows to get a feeling for the
+problem, and - maybe - pieces of code could be used. You can have a look at
+ <A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/MagDriva-2.2010.pdf">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/MagDriva-2.2010.pdf</A>
+(page 41 and on - it is in German, but the screenshots illustrate quite
+well how such a tool can look like). I dont suggest to use this in reply
+to Lucs suggestion - I propose to use it as a potential starting point
+in case of an &quot;ok, I will write this piece of code&quot; . And, I dont think
+that &quot;I will&quot; is the right approach, there need to be more than 1 - not
+only to split the work, but also to have controversy and discussions
+about what the gadget should look like.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le mercredi 23 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 19:28 +0000, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But, before this is done, it's necessary that we achieve another goal:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> II. Make agreement with main RPM distros to standardization:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a. Standardize naming and versioning of packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nowadays, it's common that, in one distro, a package be called
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'samba' and, in another, 'smb'. Thus, if we try install a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package made for the first one in the second, we can break
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dependence tree. Standardizing the naming and the versioning
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would solve this issue. Comnpatibility with current distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> versions could be achieved by dummy packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you mean by &quot;standardize versioning&quot; ?
+</I>
+Maybe he is thinking of related packages that are regrouped differently
+in various distros, and thus named somewhat differently. Most distros
+seem to already follow upstream naming and versioning.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> b. Standardize file locations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Even if you can install a package made for a distro to another
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without breaking the dependency tree, can occur in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> application does not find the libraries or configuration files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that need, being necessary to create symbolic links to them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Standardize the location of these files would solve the problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comnpatibility with current and old distro versions could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> achieved by symlinks created automatically during install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> File location are already standardized by FHS.
+</I>
+A lot of smaller third-party packages (not associated with a distro)
+have rather creative interpretations of FHS. Again, it doesn't seem to
+be a problem with major packages or distro-based packages.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And can you explain what you mean by &quot;compatibility with current distro
+</I>&gt;<i> could be achieved by symlinks&quot; ?
+</I>
+Maybe he means adding symbolic links in spec files from upstream install
+locations to standard FHS locations ?
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>I am missing the left and right arrows on the system tray, which - in
+Mandriva-KDE - allow to pull in and push out things like the korganizer
+icon. Is this an upstream issue, or can Mageia add this feature - quite
+important for user friendliness of a KDE desktop?
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+<PRE>Am Donnerstag 24 Februar 2011, 11:21:49 schrieb Juergen Harms:
+&gt;<i> I am missing the left and right arrows on the system tray, which - in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva-KDE - allow to pull in and push out things like the korganizer
+</I>&gt;<i> icon. Is this an upstream issue, or can Mageia add this feature - quite
+</I>&gt;<i> important for user friendliness of a KDE desktop?
+</I>
+I do have it (but it it looks differently and is in another place in the
+systray then it was in my Mdv2010.2).
+Perhaps this is related to using KDE-4.6 instead of KDE-4.4 as 2010.2 does?
+
+But I have to add, that I'm not using an standard KDE desktop configuration on
+any system...
+
+Oliver
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 24 f&#233;vrier 2011 07:21:49, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I am missing the left and right arrows on the system tray, which - in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva-KDE - allow to pull in and push out things like the korganizer
+</I>&gt;<i> icon. Is this an upstream issue, or can Mageia add this feature - quite
+</I>&gt;<i> important for user friendliness of a KDE desktop?
+</I>Could provides eventually a screenshot of it ?
+A normal systray with KDE 4.6 is like this now :
+<A HREF="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5473602444_7410c89859.jpg">http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5473602444_7410c89859.jpg</A>
+
+You need to click on the up arrow to see more icons, and you can use the
+shorcut ALT+D,S to configure it.
+
+Regards,
+
+--
+Balcaen John
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+ <B>motitos</B>
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+<PRE>For Mandriva, there is such feature, developed by a member of
+BlogDrake. He called it RecoverDrake. You just need to add the
+BlogDrake repository
+
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/katnatek/dependenciasdrake">http://blogdrake.net/blog/katnatek/dependenciasdrake</A>
+
+and install recoverdrake via urpmi. Probably, you might want to
+collaborate and make a Mageia version.
+
+Bye! motitos
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE> &gt; You need to click on the up arrow to see more icons, and you can use
+ &gt; the shorcut ALT+D,S to configure it.
+
+Thank you - that works
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 09:36 +0200, P. Christeas wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 23 February 2011, Andr&#233; Machado wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; T H E [ R E D ] A L L I A N C E
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ... which would be a global network where developers and users of these
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distributions could exchange knowledge and information and share resources
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to assist in developing mutual their distros.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry Pal.
+</I>&gt;<i> you come second.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been shouting about that for the past 2 years. Even before Mandriva had
+</I>&gt;<i> dissolved.
+</I>
+Mandriva is in fact still going, at least after a fashion. Let's not
+care who is first or second - the way to build support and consensus is
+to welcome newcomers to the fold...
+
+In general, in making a standard, you have to ask
+. who will benefit?
+. who will use it, and what are their needs? (not the same question!)
+. who will need to do work to change?
+. what are the costs and drawbacks?
+. who will feel they are losing out, and how do you accommodate them?
+. is there already work in the area that more or less meets everyone's
+needs, and just needs to be tweaked a little? If not, then you first
+have to develop a technology.
+
+It may at first sound like, if you can install the same package on all
+systems, the users have benefited. But if it means the strengths of
+each distribution are diluted, the result will probably be the emergence
+of a single distribution that is easier for most use cases, but that
+can't easily be customised for special cases. So you make it harder for
+smaller distributions to survive, and that in the end may hurt users. An
+example might be that cross-distribution packages would be less likely
+to support the Mandriva XFdrake administrative tools, less likely maybe
+to use /etc/alternatives (since other RPM-based distributions often
+don't) and so on.
+
+&gt;<i> But, still, the choice of people was to go the SVN, isolated way of working.
+</I>
+So, present an alternative (autopackage?) and make it work.
+
+Liam
+
+--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+<PRE>i still like
+
+Portmanteau
+
+A container for all aspects of Mageia packages: contents, discussion,
+testing, reviews and anything else related to applications.
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>2011/2/12 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Applications Galaxy (where each application is a small star in the galaxy).
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a good feeling for galaxy.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like Galaxy. We could have classy artwork related to galaxies and
+stars and so on.
+
+I was thinking of having an index page with a made up galaxy with some
+clickable star constellations representing a gamepad, a notepad,
+brushes, etc., for each category of applications.
+Though, it might not be very ergonomic despite looking good.
+
+R&#233;mi
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+
+<LI><A HREF="003782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003784.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>motitos
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 08:36:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003777.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003779.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003778.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>motitos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003781.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003783.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003784.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 08:36:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003783.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003784.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003777.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003779.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003778.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003781.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>motitos
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
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+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 08:36:19 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 23:25:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01298532979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01298532979-01298562647- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01298541738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01298541738-01298546068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia First Login Wizzard
+</A><A NAME="3780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>motitos
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01298542313- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Attention, please
+</A><A NAME="3776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01298542909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003777.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01298542909-01298544091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003779.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01298542909-01298544320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003778.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01298561823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003781.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE System Tray
+</A><A NAME="3781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01298570169- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003783.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01298586352- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003784.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db (round 2)
+</A><A NAME="3784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
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