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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 15 februari 2011 22:01:21 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes skrev 15.2.2011 22:34:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; These are my own very conchise first impressions:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - no btrfs? (except in advanced setup)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we can enable support for btrfs in standard setup
+</I>&gt;<i> (but I dont think we should go for it as default yet...)
+</I>
+exactly, i looked at the list, and it lists ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, etc... btrfs
+could easily be there amongst those.
+
+I would indeed wait to set it by default when it has been more used and proven
+as stable. (perhaps one or two releases further)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - core media
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This screen was never clear to me, and i never selected it, however,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps for iso installation, a mirror repository should be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; automatically there and selected by default? so that if there's updates,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; they can already be used during installation... ? WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that page is to give the user the choice to add a mirror repo if
+</I>&gt;<i> she/she wants it, but not forcing it...
+</I>
+i'm just thinking if we list some form of updates there by default, it could
+mean faster install (no updates later on), and if something wasn't functional,
+at release time, it could be &quot;pushed&quot; from repositories, so that it would work
+well.
+
+at the same time, i think we should try to minimize the amount of packages
+needed to have working network, (or use the stuff that's in the stage tarballs
+to get network, instead of first installing part of it)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - i selected HTTP and it installed a few packages so i could enable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; networking (2min)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - the partition step kept being highlighted, even when i was configuring
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; network...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - <A HREF="http://distrib-">http://distrib-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64 didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; seem to work when configuring additional media
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It might have been overloaded, so no free download slots...
+</I>
+perhaps, i'm not sure
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - KDE choice (very funny artwork :-D )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - installing (5min)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - when configuring, wizard said my password was trivial to guess, even
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; though i had letter and digits in it with total length 8
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A good pasword should contain a mix of atleast 3 of theese:
+</I>&gt;<i> - lower-case characters
+</I>&gt;<i> - upper-case characters
+</I>&gt;<i> - numbers
+</I>&gt;<i> - special characters
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and preferably &gt;=10 characters
+</I>
+so, it's either trivial or good? no inbetweens?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - perhaps the iso media should be removed after installation and when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updated media are installed? it keeps requesting for the DVD...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would mean getting network traffic, even if you have it on the iso.
+</I>&gt;<i> And the user can always change it in the media manager
+</I>
+how often do you have people installing ISO, then removing iso, to boot from
+disk; only to find out that you have to put it in again to install a few
+applications. granted the first reboot doesn't boot from the iso, but the
+subsequent boots do use the iso...
+
+otoh, indeed it could mean increased network traffic...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - vim didn't show a color scheme for /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - trying to update with urpmi --auto-select showed me that i had an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; orphaned package ? kernel-desktop-devel ? odd...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi orphans detection isn't perfect yet...
+</I>
+i don't think this is the problem, tbh, i'm wondering why it was even
+installed? (unless it was for dkms stuff?)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; logs vbox3 guest: (vbox3 is still in 2010.2, so perhaps we should have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; vbox3 compatibility?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> vbox 4 is in 2010.2 backports
+</I>
+true, but would you dare to upgrade an existing vbox3 version to vbox4? i have
+several machines that are &quot;saved&quot;...
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I></PRE>
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