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"market" is connected with +</I>><i> "selling", "app*" is connected with Apple's commercial appstore. +</I> +That a word is used or misused would not justify to abdicate our own +use of it, if it is relevant. Or we are headed for newspeak each time. + +"App" has been used years for software applications before Apple +coined the "AppStore" name. And their application platform has +fundamentally nothing new, but that it does build a hugely profitable +ecosystem, for now at least. + +A "market" is a place where people meet and exchange stuff. From this +have grown many different things of different sizes and implications. +And sometimes, there is sales and purchases there, because that's how +it takes place. And nothing here opposes collaboration: it just takes +place in a certain way, provided both parties are happy with the +transaction that took place. + +"Market" may indeed not be the best word in this very case, but this +reflexion hints something interesting: that you oppose the possibility +to have paid-for stuff witin mageia-app-db. Why not. Is it so really? +Is it assumed? + +For such generic terms (app, market), it's more what you do with it +with time that matters and prints some identity, than the name only +(the records of inane names back then that now bear some very serious +meaning are countless). + +Notwithstanding that one may rename it anyway later. + +Back then (2006), we coined "Kiosk" for what could have been Mdv +application store at the time. The name matches, through several +acceptions, the public passing-by/meeting place, the public +distribution place (of newspapers) and integration in the daily life; +the "library" and "social" aspects that are in the project's +description (<A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki</A> ). + +Or Forknamad, for Formerly-Known-As-Mageia-App-Db application. :) + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003528.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003530.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3529">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3529">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3529">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3529">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |