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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Thu Feb 10 19:03:15 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-02-10
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The initial paragraph translates as:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux is a free operating system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To me, this does not fully explain the use of &quot;free&quot; in the context
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of Mandriva/Magia. This topic (free as in beer/free as in freedom)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is always one of much debate in any FOSS community. I propose:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux is an operating system based primarily on Open
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Source code and licensed in a way to provide users and developers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with greater freedom than proprietary, restricted code. It can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modified and improved by its users and members of the community of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this system. The spirit of this system is summarized in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manifesto.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that's a problem you get through the translation. I'm quite
+</I>&gt;<i> sure Thomas used the french word &quot;libre&quot; which doesn't have the
+</I>&gt;<i> distinction in &quot;free as in beer/free as in freedom&quot;.
+</I>
+I agree. No ambiguity in French. (being fluent in English &amp; French)
+Note that google translations are often extremely poor, due to misplaced
+context.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm afraid it's only in English and German where you do have that
+</I>&gt;<i> double meaning. As far as I know, the french word &quot;libre&quot; can be
+</I>&gt;<i> translated in Italian, Spanish and Portuguese in the same way without
+</I>&gt;<i> getting any double meaning.
+</I>
+That is my understanding as well.
+
+&gt;<i> Your workarround isn't reading that nicely. It shows that you were
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to work arround something.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's the job of the different translation teams (and we do have
+</I>&gt;<i> an English team) to find the right words to describe what they really
+</I>&gt;<i> mean.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps - in English - it would be better to say:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux is a free and open source operating system. It can be
+</I>&gt;<i> freely modified and improved by its users and members of the community
+</I>&gt;<i> of this system.
+</I>
+Much better :)
+
+&gt;<i> After all the &quot;Free Software Foundation&quot; doesn't call itself
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Foundation for Software licensed in a way to...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+
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+Andr&#233;
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