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But this +mail is just here to explain the organisation structure, if you already +know it, you can skip ( or read and amend if I am wrong ). + +In order to be clear for everybody, let me explain everything. + +So first, let's take a look at the page explaining the organisation +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org</A> + +There is 2 governing instances : +- the Board +- the Council + +== Council == + +The Council is composed of people elected by the teams, teams are +composed of people who are active in the project. Note that not all team +are formed, far from it and we are working on it. Council handle : + +- project day-to-day management, planning, coordination and production +- conflict resolution + +== Board == +The Board is composed of people elected by the current members of the +association ( also refered as "active member of the association", but +this is slightly confusing ). People need to be member of the +association to be a candidate. It handle : + +- keeping and advocating the project values, mission & direction +=> try to communicate the spirit of the project, decide if we devote +significant share of ressources of the project or not ( like devoting +one server to a project to reach Mars ( first stupid example I can think +of )). This part should obviously not be micro management, of course. + +- communication & resources management +=> ie handle domain name usage, logo, trademark usage, etc + +- Council and Teams coordination; +=> ie, handling the creation and vote, and others administrative tasks. + +- conflict resolution, +=> when the council decided it was appropriate + +- holding the association administrative role (money, property, etc.) +=> mainly all the boring tasks + +If I remember correctly, this is roughly modeled around the structure of +various bicameral systems, like the one in France, USA, etc. + +IE, the first instance is were most of the thing happens ( Council ), +and the second one ( Board ) is here to handle administrative ( and +boring ) tasks, and make sure the first one do not go wrong. + +Of course, having 2 governing instances in no way prevent people from +giving their input and their feedback, first on their team or anywhere. +We do read mailing list, irc, microblogs, etc and later forums. +And the 2 structures are here for coordination, not for coercion. Ie, +they cannot force people to do something ( that would either ineffective +or quite illegal in most juridiction in fact ). + +So in the light of theses explications ( that will likely be completed +or amended by Romain who did the hard work on this ), let's go on the +actual situation. + +== actual situation == + +Team are not all fully formed +( <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=teams">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=teams</A> ). So far, the i18N team is +running quite well, the packagers team is started and running quite +well, and so does the web team. Sysadmin team is active, but not +formally organized. The artwork is active, the triage have been +gathered, and I do not know for others ( I guess we should have someone +in charge of the overall coordination with a nice management-ready +spreadsheet ). + +So the Council is not started at all yet. Of course, it is planned to +start it, and that the Board's duty. + +And on the Board side, we do have the association ( with a temporary +board : <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=245">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=245</A> ) and so far, only founders are +members of the association +( <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=founders">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=founders</A> ). + +== Association == + +Obviously, this will/should change, and people can become association +members in 2 ways : +- from the Council +- by proposition and validation of the Board + +The 2nd proposal is likely to be the exceptional way, and the usual way +should be by being elected at the Council. Once being elected at the +Council, either as leader, deputy leader, or representative, people +become active member of the association automatically once they have +done their 1 year term. + +For various reasons, mainly based on requiring a minimal participation +at election ( ie, we need a quorum ), people will also leave the +association if they : +- decide to leave +- are no longer active to the point of not being represented at all +during 2 general assembly ( neither present, nor have delegated their +vote ) +- are deceased +- do something really wrong and are kicked out by the board + +The exact statuses should be somewhere on the website, in french for the +moment. Romain told me there is still various details to sort out that +were seen after being sent to the french administration and that will be +changed on first general assembly, during FOSDEM. + +So, what will happen at FOSDEM ( this year and for the others, unless +the organizers decide to held it in a totally different and unrelated +time, or the Board decide to change this ) ? + +== general assembly and FOSDEM == + +Current members from the association will receive a formal convocation +( by email ) something like 15 days before the event, for the general +assembly. Arnaud Patard, current association secretary, will do it this +year. + +Before that, we will gather the list of potential candidates among the +members for being on the board, as the list need to be on the +convocation. Another mail will be sent for that, as this one is already +long, that's my duty. + +For the next years, 1/3 of the Board will have to be reelected. For the +first years, it will be voluntary, but after the third year, it should +based on the time people served on the board ( ie, 3 years term ). This +measure is to prevent a fast take over of the association and the board. + +Then the current members ( ie founders for now ) will vote for the +board, and the board will then discuss to designated a chair of the +board and council, and who handle what on a administrative level +( secretary, treasurer, and backups ) + +And after that, the board should take over the founders duty ( ie, the +founders meetings will become board meetings I guess, but that part and +the planning need to be slightly explained, as well as various technical +details ). + +So if you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask by replying on this +mail. + +I will send another mail to founders to gather candidates, and report +here on -discuss 15 days before the assembly. Thanks for reading. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003384.html">[Mageia-discuss] [LONG] yesterday meeting logs, and board election at fosdem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |