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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 9 12:11:14 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Egon Ashrafinia skrev 9.11.2010 12:37:
+&gt;<i> Thats may be correct, I dont know I never used the &quot;free&quot; one. The
+</I>&gt;<i> problem is that people with light DSL ( like I do ) cant get the &quot;Free&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> version of Mandriva ( Mageia ) and the only option is to DL the One Iso.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thats also what I think of. Most people get the One Iso because it is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. A smart Iso, fits on a CD.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Has all componens Out of the Box ( driver and stuff like that )
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Only ~700MB to download and not 2-3GB ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus our main &quot;consumer&quot; are going to DL the One iso. So we have to
+</I>&gt;<i> focus on that. And when there is a Kernel which is going to slow down my
+</I>&gt;<i> System I am not going to use it anymore.
+</I>
+
+The average user wont even know the difference of running i586 vs i686.
+The poweruser wont have any problem switching kernel to i686.
+
+
+&gt;<i> I mean what are the main
+</I>&gt;<i> diffrents of them? Only a few configs right? Maybe we do it dynamic and
+</I>&gt;<i> he is autodetecting the System and config the Kernel that way. Is that
+</I>&gt;<i> possible or is then a new building of the Kernel needed? Maybe thats the
+</I>&gt;<i> sulution.
+</I>
+In order to ship both i586 and i686 kernel, it would need another ~50MB
+of the already small CD.
+
+&gt;<i> I mean where are going to discuss here and it would realy be
+</I>&gt;<i> an improvment, when we allow People to use a modern and fast kernel and
+</I>&gt;<i> not a kernel which is going to slow the system ( well only a bit ) just
+</I>&gt;<i> because there are some people who are proud the use a Pentium II CPU
+</I>&gt;<i> just to be cool.
+</I>
+Actually there are even some Pentium D series (&gt;1GHz CPU) that cant cope
+with all i686 instructions.
+
+And it's not about &quot;proud ... to be cool...&quot;
+
+It might be all they can afford.
+And also schools that get old hw for free also needs i586.
+
+&gt;<i> You can get a 64-bit CPU computer for less then 200&#8364;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thats not the problem in my eyes.
+</I>
+In your eyes only...
+
+200&#8364; might for some people mean 1-3 months of food.
+
+&gt;<i> Sure it is correct, that they should use 64-Bit Mandriva.
+</I>
+Exactly.
+
+&gt;<i> But not
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone is doing it. We talk about general configurations and not about
+</I>&gt;<i> a short group of people. Maybe we should think that way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So because people with new powerful hw cant be bothered to install
+64bit, we should cut out those that have the need for i586 ..
+
+Trust me, That is not going to happend!
+
+What we do need to think about is a x86_64 live cd
+
+--
+Thomas
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