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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sat Nov 6 20:00:55 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Luca Berra a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 08:16:22PM +0100, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * andre999 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Donald Stewart a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 1 November 2010 10:24, Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2010-11-01 06:00, Philippe DIDIER a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Using delta rpms would reduce the size of the updates, or has my lack
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of understanding of delta roms got in the way?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Delta rpms, relative to the latest distro release, are long overdue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (And not only in the Mandriva world. Also for Mozilla, OpenOffice,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> etc.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Note that for much commercial software, updates are normally delta.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such updates are often erroneously called patches.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This may be partly a limitation of rpm packages, or more the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> programs that install/update such packages. If so, it should be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> priority to correct this lack.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problem of delta rpm is the work need to generated alls delta and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the space need on mirrors to host everything.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We must provide delta for each version to the next one:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - main foo-1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - upd foo-2 D: 1-&gt;2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> foo-3 D: 2-&gt;3 and 1-&gt;3 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> foo-4 D: 3-&gt;4 and 1-&gt;4, 2-&gt;4 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What if delta 1-&gt;4 is bigger than the package itself ? and for 2-&gt;4 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As nanar points out delta rpm is a bad design
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a working concept would have been basing all deltas on a specific rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> (i.e. the one in */release) and bundling entire files. in this case a
+</I>&gt;<i> patch will grow at most as the original rpm, and you don't care about
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping incremental diffs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> L.
+</I>
+Which is exactly what I was proposing.
+Delta by file relative to the official distro release.
+
+- Andr&#233;
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