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Since it will look, for all +</I>>>>>>><i> intents and purposes, like the release ISO, that level of quality +</I>>>>>>><i> will +</I>>>>>>><i> be what people expect of it. +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Nonsense. The normal updates are not any more unstable than the +</I>>>>>><i> original +</I>>>>>><i> release, rather the contrary. +</I>>>>><i> I suggest you review MDV's release procedures. Full releases and +</I>>>>><i> security updates go through formal QA. Backports are often not even +</I>>>>><i> tested by the person building the rpm. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Backports? Who is talking about backports? +</I>>>><i> We are talking about normal security and bug-fix updates here. +</I>><i> If one selects "all updates" in Rpmdrake, it includes backports, if +</I>><i> such repositorys are enabled. +</I>><i> +</I>>>>><i> And they get addressed through updates which themselves go through QA. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Exactly, that's why it make sense to release an updated iso with them +</I>>>><i> included. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Agreed, we are not talking about backports at all. This issue is +</I>>><i> about giving out an ISO disk with all official updates (to that date) +</I>>><i> to people who cannot have their slow telephone hookup tied up for the +</I>>><i> day to download our Mageia product or to user who have no hookup to +</I>>><i> the internet at all. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Surely, the official updates have been thoroughly tested just as the +</I>>><i> original release? It not, then a warning should be put out to +</I>>><i> users/members that the official updates do not have the same level of +</I>>><i> QA as the original release. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Even bugfixes often have errors. Many times I've seen bugfixes of +</I>><i> bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes. (If you +</I>><i> read the description.) +</I>><i> If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only advantage +</I>><i> I see is for those without Internet connexion. +</I>><i> In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security problems. +</I>><i> So that leaves (other) bugfixes. +</I>><i> This is something that I think, for the time being at least, can be +</I>><i> best adressed on an individual or local community basis. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - André +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>There is a solution called draklive. Maybe could it be usefull to take +advantage of this tool to rebuild automatically by a script on the +servers the isos from updated repositories. I do it locally for my work +to install mdv rapidly. +David +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/07185b50/attachment-0001.vcf> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002898.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2919">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2919">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2919">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2919">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |