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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Fri Nov 5 02:54:19 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Weak point:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless you are prepared to do full intensive QA on the updated distro,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the quality of these updated ISOs can be significantly lower than the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quality of the original release ISO. Since it will look, for all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> intents and purposes, like the release ISO, that level of quality will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be what people expect of it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nonsense. The normal updates are not any more unstable than the original
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release, rather the contrary.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest you review MDV's release procedures. Full releases and
+</I>&gt;<i> security updates go through formal QA. Backports are often not even
+</I>&gt;<i> tested by the person building the rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Exactly. Even regular (non-security) updates are prone to errors.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course occasional glitches can happen but they happen equally on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> original install CDs (as has been proven again and again).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And they get addressed through updates which themselves go through QA.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What difference is there between someone who installs from the original
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release CD and then applies updates vs. installing from a CD where the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updates are already included?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the first case, you can roll back the update. If all you've got is
+</I>&gt;<i> two ISOs, and you're unfamiliar enough with CLI rpm to be using ISOs to
+</I>&gt;<i> begin with, you're screwed unless you reinstall (or kept the old image,
+</I>&gt;<i> which newbies are unlikely to do).
+</I>That's one weakness of update CDs. Newbies are going to assume that
+everything on CD/DVD is reliable.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm all for the idea of updated ISOs that include all updates, too.
+</I>Such ISOs will only be up to date the day they are produced. So regular
+updates should still be done.
+And what do you do if it contains a problematic update ? Recall the CD ?
+At least with updates in repository, faulty updates can be withdrawn -
+and sometimes are.
+
+- Andr&#233;
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