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Why should anyone be forced to use a platform he doesn't like? +</I>><i> Something like "Planet Mageia" where anyone can use whatever blog he likes +</I>><i> would be better by far! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Yea, I too don't like twitter or facebook. Why use a silly interface +like that when we can build our own interfaces on our own Mageia web site? + +Wayne Sallee +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2855">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2855">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2855">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2855">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002856.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002856.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..97a5fc692 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002856.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Twitter + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Twitter&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD0A9DA.7000501%40zen.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002855.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002859.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Twitter</H1> + <B>Barry Jackson</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Twitter&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD0A9DA.7000501%40zen.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Twitter">zen25000 at zen.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 01:16:26 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2856">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2856">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2856">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2856">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 02/11/10 23:05, Wayne Sallee wrote: +><i> Oliver Burger wrote on 11/01/2010 05:42 AM: +</I>>><i> Dimitrios Glentadakis<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-11-01 +</I>>>><i> 2010/11/1, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>>: +</I>>>>><i> it would be nice that all the mandriva/mageia contributors could follow +</I>>>>><i> each other in twiteer for related work. +</I>>>><i> I would prefere something like Planet Mageia. +</I>>><i> Me too. Why should anyone be forced to use a platform he doesn't like? +</I>>><i> Something like "Planet Mageia" where anyone can use whatever blog he +</I>>><i> likes +</I>>><i> would be better by far! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oliver +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Yea, I too don't like twitter or facebook. Why use a silly interface +</I>><i> like that when we can build our own interfaces on our own Mageia web site? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wayne Sallee +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A> +</I>><i> +</I>+1 We are not all teenagers here. 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I'll enable it and see how it goes tomorrow. + +-- +Juancho +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2857">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2857">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2857">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2857">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002858.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002858.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f924d1830 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002858.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Interview%20de%20Anne%20Nicolas%20pour%20Mageia%20%5Bfrench%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaqs3n%24ruc%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002857.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002860.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french]</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Interview%20de%20Anne%20Nicolas%20pour%20Mageia%20%5Bfrench%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaqs3n%24ruc%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french]">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 06:31:35 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002857.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2858">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2858">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2858">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2858">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-11-02 18:42, Fabio.bronzini a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Bonjour, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i will translate in italian from french (if somebody is interested in +</I>><i> Italy), i'm a freelance IT writer, i collaborate with various italian +</I>><i> magazine (e.g. Gnu-Linux Magazine, Computer Programming) and web portals +</I>><i> (Consulenti ICT Italia). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope you'll be able to read it very soon, I'm available to promote and +</I>><i> help Mageia Linux in Italy. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sincerely +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fabio Bronzini +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi Fabio: + +Could you add your name to the Mageia Wiki Marketing page? + +You can find it here: + +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A> + +Glad to have you on-board + +Marc Paré +Marketing Team Member + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002857.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2858">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2858">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2858">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2858">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002859.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002859.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7eaa572e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002859.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Twitter + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Twitter&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaqs6b%24ruc%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002856.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002857.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Twitter</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Twitter&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaqs6b%24ruc%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Twitter">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 06:32:59 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002857.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2859">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2859">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2859">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2859">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-11-02 20:16, Barry Jackson a écrit : +><i> On 02/11/10 23:05, Wayne Sallee wrote: +</I>>><i> Oliver Burger wrote on 11/01/2010 05:42 AM: +</I>>>><i> Dimitrios Glentadakis<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>>><i> schrieb am 2010-11-01 +</I>>>>><i> 2010/11/1, Luis Daniel Lucio +</I>>>>><i> Quiroz<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>>: +</I>>>>>><i> it would be nice that all the mandriva/mageia contributors could +</I>>>>>><i> follow +</I>>>>>><i> each other in twiteer for related work. +</I>>>>><i> I would prefere something like Planet Mageia. +</I>>>><i> Me too. Why should anyone be forced to use a platform he doesn't like? +</I>>>><i> Something like "Planet Mageia" where anyone can use whatever blog he +</I>>>><i> likes +</I>>>><i> would be better by far! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Oliver +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yea, I too don't like twitter or facebook. Why use a silly interface +</I>>><i> like that when we can build our own interfaces on our own Mageia web +</I>>><i> site? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Wayne Sallee +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +1 We are not all teenagers here. (Wish I was though :-) +</I>><i> +</I> +Hey! I'm a teenager. It's just that my brain stopped in my teenage years +and my body kept on to today's 51 years of age. Doh! + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Twitter +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002857.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2859">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2859">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2859">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2859">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002860.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002860.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1beb5f4b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002860.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103062429.GA29815%40maude.comedia.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002858.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002861.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Luca Berra</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103062429.GA29815%40maude.comedia.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">bluca at vodka.it + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 07:24:29 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2860">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2860">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2860">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2860">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:49:44PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i>2010/11/2 Luca Berra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> then redhat must be crazy to use it to provide isos for fedora13 ?!? +</I>>><i> and debian and ubuntu as well... +</I>><i> +</I>><i>I don't know for Red Hat or any other, may be they have been using it +</I>><i>for a while before the project was announced to be in "maintenance +</I>><i>mode". I only think that we should not start with something which +</I>><i>seems to have neither a future nor an active maintainer for security +</I>><i>fixes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>It's not the features (although a "GUI remains unfinished" is not a +</I>><i>good ad), it's the security fixes I care about. +</I> +I don't know what to say... +I think the idea behind jigdo is very nice, but probably in our fast +moving and consumistic world anything that goes against waste of +resources is uncool. + +I wonder if you and others took the time to look at what the thing does +besides reading the warning and jumping at the chance to bash me. And +being pedantic i'd like to point out that i initially stated "something +like jigdo" + +googling i bit it appears redhat did a rewrite in python (using +twisted), it has been last updated about 1 year ago. Being what it is i +do not really expect it to be updated very often. for a comparison last +wget release was on september 2009. + +Jigdo is a simple tool whose purpose is to merge package files plus a +template in order to create a finished iso, identical to the one that a +distribution would provide. + +About the issue you raise, i may be partial here, but i would like to +point out: +The project is in "maintenance mode" does not mean: "the project is +unmaintained" + +the tool is widely used (debian, ubuntu) so i guess in case a security +issue is found, the community could easily provide a fix. + +L. + + +-- +Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interview de Anne Nicolas pour Mageia [french] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2860">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2860">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2860">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2860">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002861.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002861.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb8e171d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002861.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciar0fr%249k0%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002860.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002862.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciar0fr%249k0%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 07:46:18 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2861">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2861">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2861">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2861">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-11-03 02:24, Luca Berra a écrit : + +><i> +</I>><i> I don't know what to say... +</I>><i> I think the idea behind jigdo is very nice, but probably in our fast +</I>><i> moving and consumistic world anything that goes against waste of +</I>><i> resources is uncool. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I wonder if you and others took the time to look at what the thing does +</I>><i> besides reading the warning and jumping at the chance to bash me. And +</I>><i> being pedantic i'd like to point out that i initially stated "something +</I>><i> like jigdo" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> googling i bit it appears redhat did a rewrite in python (using +</I>><i> twisted), it has been last updated about 1 year ago. Being what it is i +</I>><i> do not really expect it to be updated very often. for a comparison last +</I>><i> wget release was on september 2009. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Jigdo is a simple tool whose purpose is to merge package files plus a +</I>><i> template in order to create a finished iso, identical to the one that a +</I>><i> distribution would provide. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> About the issue you raise, i may be partial here, but i would like to +</I>><i> point out: +</I>><i> The project is in "maintenance mode" does not mean: "the project is +</I>><i> unmaintained" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the tool is widely used (debian, ubuntu) so i guess in case a security +</I>><i> issue is found, the community could easily provide a fix. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> L. +</I> +OK, I am not a dev., but even myself, I would be a little leery of a +piece of software that no longer had a maintainer nor that the site was +pretty well in moth balls. However, if, like you said, RedHat had +updated it and was using it, maybe look to RedHat for the download for +the tool? + +So, we took a little turn in the conversation, is it possible to have a +copy of Mageia + updates on one ISO DVD/CD for Communities to use for +people who do not have access to high speed or simply no internet +connection at all? + +Do you think that Mageia could offer this service or would it just be +too much time to devote for this? + +Marc + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2861">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2861">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2861">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2861">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002862.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002862.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..42246160a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002862.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinRjUDG%3DFTbOjNGO2YQKeVrmm3M8H-J%2BFboQHAp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002861.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002872.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinRjUDG%3DFTbOjNGO2YQKeVrmm3M8H-J%2BFboQHAp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 07:59:23 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2862">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2862">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2862">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2862">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/11/3 Luca Berra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> I don't know what to say... +</I>><i> I think the idea behind jigdo is very nice, but probably in our fast +</I>><i> moving and consumistic world anything that goes against waste of +</I>><i> resources is uncool. +</I> +I did not say one single word against or in favor or about the +application itself. + +><i> I wonder if you and others took the time to look at what the thing does +</I>><i> besides reading the warning and jumping at the chance to bash me. +</I> +Where did I (or anybody else) bash you? All I wrote was my personal +habit with applications which show such warnings. I never ever wrote +anything about you. If you had the impression of a personal offense I +surely apologize, it was not meant to be one. + +If the package turns out to be maintained by Red Hat (or somebody +else) everything is ok, my evalutation was based on the website +warning. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2862">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2862">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2862">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2862">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002863.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002863.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..53467ffad --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002863.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD16F39.301%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002869.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002868.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD16F39.301%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 15:18:33 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2863">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2863">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2863">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2863">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Le 2010-11-01 01:13, andre999 a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> Ah, I see. I guess at this point, we would have to have direction from +</I>>>><i> an SC member as to how to handle this situation. But, IMHO, we should +</I>>>><i> still keep the policies/guidelines as easy as possible as we would +</I>>>><i> like to get the distro into as many hands as possible. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Good idea to have some sort of policy on non-official ISOs, but I would +</I>>><i> only be interested, at least initially, in helping distribute exact +</I>>><i> copies of official ISOs. And those will have checksums (md5 and/or sha1) +</I>>><i> available on Mageia respositories and official mirrors, that anyone +</I>>><i> could verify. (Very small files to download.) +</I>>><i> We should make sure that we verify any official ISOs that we distribute. +</I>>><i> I'm sure that is what the German community does. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> - André +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree. I would also be only interested in distributing exact copies +</I>><i> of official ISO's. I believe this is what most people would be looking +</I>><i> for. +</I>I like the idea of double-layer DVDs, as Graham mentioned. Each layer +would have its own checksum. (For DVDs we would use sha1, which is +stronger than md5.) +Even if Mageia produces only single-layer DVDs, we could reproduce the +32 and 64 bit DVDs, each on its own layer, each having the same checksum +as Mageia. +Ideally we would even print a label on the DVD, with the checksums. +(Although my DVD writer can write double-layer, it can't write labels.) + +><i> Hey we could offer this on the Canadian Community site once it is up +</I>><i> and running. +</I>Exactly. The site should autodetect the language of the browser, so +everyone (who bothers to set it) would see it in their own language. +(As long as it is English or French, of course :) ) +Also links to Mageia, and other sites like MLO, etc. +It would be nice to have a (bilingual) forum. :) +It'll be kind of fun setting up a site - haven't yet done that. + +><i> Marc +</I> +- André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2863">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2863">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2863">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2863">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002864.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002864.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2539e2b7e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002864.html @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ISO%200%20specification&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD1752E.10200%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002868.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002870.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ISO%200%20specification&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD1752E.10200%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 15:43:58 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2864">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2864">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2864">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2864">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 à 09:20 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I read the full meeting logs from 25/10, and i noticed tmb saying: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "pretty much a cooker snapshot" +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I donno how far you're going to take this; but i thought we would be getting a +</I>>><i> new version out ASAP. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> in my understanding, we would get a 2010.1 snapshot and use it to build the +</I>>><i> first ISO. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> and use the cooker snapshot to get a cauldron. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> imo the cooker is sooo unstable and broken, we will not be able to get a +</I>>><i> working ISO from it, that is more or less stable in this timeframe. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> eg: +</I>>><i> * KDE +</I>>><i> * glib +</I>>><i> * perl +</I>>><i> * python +</I>>><i> * RPM +</I>>><i> * ... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> most of these will get fixed, in time; but what about ALL the packages +</I>>><i> depending on that? most of the packages aren't even maintained... +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> They are not more maintained on 2010.1 than on cooker. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> personally, i'm against using cooker to make a stable ISO 0. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> why that's what we do all the time, after a stabilisation period. It +</I>><i> worked fine for the last 7 years, and that's a part of the process that +</I>><i> is used by lots of distributions. ( have a devel tree, fork it for +</I>><i> release, bug fix, release it ). There is slightly different variations +</I>><i> ( fedora and no frozen rawhide, debian and testing/stable/unstable ), +</I>><i> but all do the same, basically. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> rebranding a 2010.1 will be lots more stable; and maintime we will have the +</I>>><i> time to make cauldron (from cooker) into something good, so we will be able to +</I>>><i> make a release based on cauldron on the 18th of september. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> But it would be less appealing, and this would make the life of the +</I>><i> communication team slightly difficult. It would also mean getting older +</I>><i> hardware support, older versions of various components ( like python, +</I>><i> for example ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this would not save anything, as the bugfix work will have to be +</I>><i> done anyway sooner or later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> More ever, the experience showed that if you give more time to fix bugs, +</I>><i> bugs just take more time to be fixed ( aka, we are lazy ). The more +</I>><i> visible evidence is the activity in Mandriva when a deadline appear "we +</I>><i> will now freeze the version update", where suddenly everybody update +</I>><i> everything ( while we could have done sooner ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And postponing to september ( ie 6 months later ) will be imho more +</I>><i> problematic, as this will add the current cooker breakage to the one +</I>><i> introduced by all the changes that people will want to push in the 6 +</I>><i> months ( gnome 3, etc, etc ). We have already experience with the +</I>><i> current 6 months cycles, but we do not really have with a 1 year cycle, +</I>><i> and this may cause trouble. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So it is better to split the work into small time based chunks, because +</I>><i> that's something we know, and we should avoid surprise to start the +</I>><i> distribution. +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree to go with cooker. +1) We have a lot of experienced Mandriva people with Mageia who propose +cooker. + +2) We have the enthusiasme of many new contributors for a community +based distro. +Many, like myself, have valuable experience elsewhere. + +3) We will be starting with a more up-to-date base. +Thus we can avoid much complication with backports, etc. + +4) The process is the same as for Mandriva, and very similar to other +major distros. +When starting a new distro, it is better to minimize major changes in +the process, if there isn't a compelling reason to do so. + +I fail to see the down side. + +- André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002868.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2864">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2864">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2864">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2864">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002865.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002865.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7508a872d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002865.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinr_YX9ZDSfAtdBweeCr_c4unN1Nsi0HbXjHqRi%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002872.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002866.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Andrey Borzenkov</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinr_YX9ZDSfAtdBweeCr_c4unN1Nsi0HbXjHqRi%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">arvidjaar at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 16:16:00 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2865">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2865">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2865">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2865">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Luca Berra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Jigdo is a simple tool whose purpose is to merge package files plus a +</I>><i> template in order to create a finished iso, identical to the one that a +</I>><i> distribution would provide. +</I>><i> +</I> +Did not we have something like this in Mandrake in the past? Although +name eludes me right now. May be we could revive this project? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2865">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2865">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2865">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2865">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002866.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002866.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9230b00ca --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002866.html @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD18C7A.8090901%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It's actually stated in +the Mageia Values. + +><i> Also...........graphically I feel the installer & its layout is kinda +</I>><i> boring. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Have you compared with other installers to make a better one? +</I> +Personally, I *like* my OS installers boring. For the following reasons: +1) I should be using them only rarely +2) when I do, I should focus on what I am doing, not on the looks of +the installer. + +So I like a clean-looking installer with a focus on reliability, +functionality, reliability, and more reliability. + +Just my tuppence. +Jérôme +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2867">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2867">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2867">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2867">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002868.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002868.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e02386017 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002868.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Cias6v0%2416q%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002863.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002864.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Cias6v0%2416q%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 18:42:55 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002864.html">[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2868">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2868">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2868">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2868">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-11-03 10:18, andre999 a écrit : +><i> Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Le 2010-11-01 01:13, andre999 a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Ah, I see. I guess at this point, we would have to have direction from +</I>>>>><i> an SC member as to how to handle this situation. But, IMHO, we should +</I>>>>><i> still keep the policies/guidelines as easy as possible as we would +</I>>>>><i> like to get the distro into as many hands as possible. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Marc +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Good idea to have some sort of policy on non-official ISOs, but I would +</I>>>><i> only be interested, at least initially, in helping distribute exact +</I>>>><i> copies of official ISOs. And those will have checksums (md5 and/or sha1) +</I>>>><i> available on Mageia respositories and official mirrors, that anyone +</I>>>><i> could verify. (Very small files to download.) +</I>>>><i> We should make sure that we verify any official ISOs that we distribute. +</I>>>><i> I'm sure that is what the German community does. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - André +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree. I would also be only interested in distributing exact copies +</I>>><i> of official ISO's. I believe this is what most people would be looking +</I>>><i> for. +</I>><i> I like the idea of double-layer DVDs, as Graham mentioned. Each layer +</I>><i> would have its own checksum. (For DVDs we would use sha1, which is +</I>><i> stronger than md5.) +</I>><i> Even if Mageia produces only single-layer DVDs, we could reproduce the +</I>><i> 32 and 64 bit DVDs, each on its own layer, each having the same checksum +</I>><i> as Mageia. +</I>><i> Ideally we would even print a label on the DVD, with the checksums. +</I>><i> (Although my DVD writer can write double-layer, it can't write labels.) +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Hey we could offer this on the Canadian Community site once it is up +</I>>><i> and running. +</I>><i> Exactly. The site should autodetect the language of the browser, so +</I>><i> everyone (who bothers to set it) would see it in their own language. +</I>><i> (As long as it is English or French, of course :) ) +</I>><i> Also links to Mageia, and other sites like MLO, etc. +</I>><i> It would be nice to have a (bilingual) forum. :) +</I>><i> It'll be kind of fun setting up a site - haven't yet done that. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - André +</I>><i> +</I>We should get together at some point and discuss the Canadian site a +little more. Maybe sometime, I'll wear my Maple Leafs Jersey and you can +wear your Canadiens Jersey and we could watch the Leafs lose to you +again. LOL ... ahem ... I think the Leafs won the last match. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002864.html">[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2868">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2868">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2868">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2868">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002869.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002869.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e759a995a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002869.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Cias7eu%243nk%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002867.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002863.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Cias7eu%243nk%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 18:51:25 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002867.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2869">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2869">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2869">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2869">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-11-03 12:23, Kristoffer Grundström a écrit : +><i> Since Linux is about opensource & Mageia is built with it, could we just +</I>><i> include programs only based on opensource? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gnash instead of Adobe's Flashplayer +</I>><i> Java-1.6.0-openjdk instead of Java-1.6.0-sun +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Perhaps an option in the installer to choose between them? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also...........graphically I feel the installer & its layout is kinda +</I>><i> boring. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Have you compared with other installers to make a better one? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know that Windows is closed source, BUT they DO have a nice graphical +</I>><i> installer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm talking about using Aero-effects. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here's an example of the installation-process: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgMNRt11ybU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgMNRt11ybU</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thank you for reading. +</I> +Hi Kristopher: + +We are talking about a person who has dial-up internet or no internet +connection who then asks the local Mageia Community for a copy of +Mageia. We were then wondering if the Mageia Community could give him a +Mageia disk with all of the 400+ updates already installed. + +At this point we are talking about the possibilities of how to do this +and why is it that Mandriva/Mageia does not already provide and ISO disk +with all of the upgrades already installed. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002867.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2869">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2869">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2869">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2869">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002870.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002870.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b65778f7b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002870.html @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD1ADD0.6090407%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002864.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002871.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CD1ADD0.6090407%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 19:45:36 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002864.html">[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2870">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2870">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2870">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2870">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Donald Stewart a écrit : +><i> On 1 November 2010 10:24, Marc Paré<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Le 2010-11-01 06:00, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Always thinking about slow internet connections, or no connection at +</I>>>><i> all (in Ardèche, in Burkina Faso, in Niger etc...) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Three months after the last version of Mandriva has appeared, I have +</I>>>><i> downloaded more than 700 Mo of updates (some updates updating previous +</I>>>><i> updates) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If someone installs Mageia with a DVD or CD provided by somebody, he +</I>>>><i> will get more and more rpms to update as much as time goes on.... (for +</I>>>><i> instance if Mageia 2011 appears april 2011, I send a DVD to my friend +</I>>>><i> who installs it on his new computer in september 2011 .... and he will +</I>>>><i> be asked to update his installed Mageia) +</I>>>><i> If he cannot download a CD iso because of his connection, he cannot +</I>>>><i> download 700 Mo of updates !!! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> It might be useful to provide +</I>>>><i> "updated" DVD iso or CD iso, some time after the release was provided, +</I>>>><i> so that those burned DVD or CD can be sent to people with slow internet +</I>>>><i> connection, freeing them of huge updates to download !!! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The only solution I have for now with Mandriva is to keep a copy of +</I>>>><i> each dowloaded updated rpm in a folder, and to fill a DVD with those +</I>>>><i> rpms (it is a DVD of updates, not an updated DVD...) and to send it. +</I>>>><i> My friend copyes those rpms in a specially created folder, and add this +</I>>>><i> folder as a source in rpmdrake... (not so easy for a newbie) and he can +</I>>>><i> get an up to date working Mandriva immediately... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> my 2 pence +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Actually, good point. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Would there be a better way to do this? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It's a shame that Mandriva/Mageia does not add the updates to the official +</I>>><i> ISO. This would then not be an issue. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Perhaps we could ask for this as a feature? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Are there any devs on the list who could provide some opinion? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Using delta rpms would reduce the size of the updates, or has my lack +</I>><i> of understanding of delta roms got in the way? +</I>><i> +</I> +Delta rpms, relative to the latest distro release, are long overdue. +(And not only in the Mandriva world. Also for Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc.) +Note that for much commercial software, updates are normally delta. +Such updates are often erroneously called patches. +This may be partly a limitation of rpm packages, or more the programs +that install/update such packages. If so, it should be a priority to +correct this lack. + +(aside +The latest 3 updates for Mozilla Seamonkey were for security, all in the +same month, and only a handful of the many thousands of contained files +were changed. But it required downloading almost 13 M instead of +probably less than 100 K. For a distribution containing thousands of +such packages, it is understandably worse. +/aside) + +However, the idea of update ISOs is good as well. +This could be facilitated by the option of downloading the latest update +for each package of the release not already present in the download +destination (and preferably removing outdated updates). +There is already an option for Rpmdrake to not erase downloaded packages. +(Unfortunately one must manually edit a configuration file to select it, +but that can easily be corrected.) +It also would be useful to have the option to change the download +destination. +With these changes, creating an update ISO would be only a matter of +copying the contents of the update directory to an ISO. +Of course, an utility to directly create an update ISO from the +repository would be useful, but the advantage of the above approach is +that a moderately limited bandwidth user could download updates as +produced (that is over an extended period), and produce complete update +ISOs for others at any time. + +my 2 cents :) + +- André +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002864.html">[Mageia-discuss] ISO 0 specification +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2870">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2870">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2870">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2870">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002871.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002871.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d2f73b354 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002871.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103191622.GX7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002870.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002873.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103191622.GX7479%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 20:16:22 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2871">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2871">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2871">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2871">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* andre999 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>) wrote: +><i> Donald Stewart a écrit : +</I>>><i> On 1 November 2010 10:24, Marc Paré<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Le 2010-11-01 06:00, Philippe DIDIER a écrit : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Using delta rpms would reduce the size of the updates, or has my lack +</I>>><i> of understanding of delta roms got in the way? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Delta rpms, relative to the latest distro release, are long overdue. +</I>><i> (And not only in the Mandriva world. Also for Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc.) +</I>><i> Note that for much commercial software, updates are normally delta. +</I>><i> Such updates are often erroneously called patches. +</I>><i> This may be partly a limitation of rpm packages, or more the programs +</I>><i> that install/update such packages. If so, it should be a priority to +</I>><i> correct this lack. +</I> +The problem of delta rpm is the work need to generated alls delta and +the space need on mirrors to host everything. +We must provide delta for each version to the next one: + +- main foo-1 +- upd foo-2 D: 1->2 + foo-3 D: 2->3 and 1->3 ? + foo-4 D: 3->4 and 1->4, 2->4 ? + +etc... +What if delta 1->4 is bigger than the package itself ? and for 2->4 ? + +Delta rpm is hard to manage (any volunteer to write the tools to manage +this ?) and as bonus, I am not sure it is still compatible with our +current rpm... + +><i> However, the idea of update ISOs is good as well. +</I>><i> This could be facilitated by the option of downloading the latest update +</I>><i> for each package of the release not already present in the download +</I>><i> destination (and preferably removing outdated updates). +</I>><i> There is already an option for Rpmdrake to not erase downloaded packages. +</I>><i> (Unfortunately one must manually edit a configuration file to select it, +</I>><i> but that can easily be corrected.) +</I>><i> It also would be useful to have the option to change the download +</I>><i> destination. +</I>><i> With these changes, creating an update ISO would be only a matter of +</I>><i> copying the contents of the update directory to an ISO. +</I>><i> Of course, an utility to directly create an update ISO from the +</I>><i> repository would be useful, but the advantage of the above approach is +</I>><i> that a moderately limited bandwidth user could download updates as +</I>><i> produced (that is over an extended period), and produce complete update +</I>><i> ISOs for others at any time. +</I> +Just think we don't have an infinite space on mirror. Even the sound +good, please try to estimated the cost it can be per release. + +BTW, regarding is download, I am thinking for a long time we must +provide par2 parity files. It can help low bandwidth to end download. +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive</A> + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101103/92d92de1/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2871">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2871">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2871">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2871">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002872.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002872.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a83373fff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002872.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103214502.GA589%40maude.comedia.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002862.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002865.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Luca Berra</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101103214502.GA589%40maude.comedia.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">bluca at vodka.it + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 22:45:02 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2872">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2872">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2872">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2872">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 07:59:23AM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i>2010/11/3 Luca Berra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't know what to say... +</I>>><i> I think the idea behind jigdo is very nice, but probably in our fast +</I>>><i> moving and consumistic world anything that goes against waste of +</I>>><i> resources is uncool. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>I did not say one single word against or in favor or about the +</I>><i>application itself. +</I> +that is the problem + +>><i> I wonder if you and others took the time to look at what the thing does +</I>>><i> besides reading the warning and jumping at the chance to bash me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Where did I (or anybody else) bash you? All I wrote was my personal +</I>><i>habit with applications which show such warnings. I never ever wrote +</I>><i>anything about you. If you had the impression of a personal offense I +</I>><i>surely apologize, it was not meant to be one. +</I> +I took no personal offense, but I would like to understand if for you, the +user, the users group that do actually create custom isos for the group +members, it would be useful to have a tool that can create, i.e. an +updated iso starting from the base iso you downloaded some months ago +and a set of updates you download from the net. + +it would allow to distribute countless different isos from a single +release (cds, dvds, dl, bd, custom isos dedicated to some particular +task), without requiring mirror owners to devote 50/100GiB to a single +mageia release. + +><i>If the package turns out to be maintained by Red Hat (or somebody +</I>><i>else) everything is ok, my evalutation was based on the website +</I>><i>warning. +</I> +if the idea turns out to be useful surely some time can be spent in +taking care of the package, even if the original autor does not care +about it, it is open source, anybody could step up and take caro of it. + +if you don't give a damn about the idea or if you think it is silly, i +would accept your point of view. + +-- +Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2872">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2872">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2872">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2872">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002873.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002873.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..87769e91d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/002873.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C201011032327.12076.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002871.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C201011032327.12076.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 23:27:12 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2873">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2873">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2873">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2873">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello to everyone, + +While things are setting up (infrastructure, teams...), which will allow us all to begin real work on our new linux distribution as soon as possible, a new project is coming to life. We want to produce a website dedicated to mageia's packages, and whose main goals would be : +- allow to browse the package database, provide the main informations about packages, like any other distribution does (see <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages">http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages</A> for example). +- focus on interaction between users, testers and packagers (backports requests and voting, new soft requests and voting, and the other way round : testing requests from packagers to users) +- customizable user notifications on your home page, RSS feed or e-mail (new backport available for you preferred soft, new update candidate available and awaiting testing...) + +I tried to explain this project there : <A HREF="http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/MageiaAppDb">http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/MageiaAppDb</A> + +It was announced yesterday during the founders meeting : <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings</A> + +The project is at its very beginning, and the task is huge, so we'll proceed step by step. You can see our temporary roadmap here : <A HREF="http://github.com/agallou/mageia-app-db/wiki/ROADMAP">http://github.com/agallou/mageia-app-db/wiki/ROADMAP</A> + +We will probably need help, however this is too soon for me to say exactly on what parts of the project (testing, development, translation, artwork...). I'll send a mail to the mageia-webteam mailing list to discuss this with people who are interested, in the following days (apart from this thread, future discussion on the project will mainly happen on the mageia-webteam mailing list). + +Right now, I'm mainly interested in your comments on this project, and also welcome any suggestions about the needs we have to answer (did we forget something ?), and ideas of functionalities. It doesn't mean we'll be able to implement everything, but at this stage I want to envision every possible idea :) + +Best regards + +Samuel Verschelde (Stormi) +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2873">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2873">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2873">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2873">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..228de219b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101103/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 3 November 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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