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You +</I>><i> > can find it here +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is also a build done by mikala +</I>in fact it's the same build :) +I builded it & neoclust uploaded it on kde's ftp. +But there's some differences now since i made some updates for bluedevil for +example :) + +-- +Balcaen John +aka mikala +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002757.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2754">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2754">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2754">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2754">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002755.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002755.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a4c09586f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002755.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311412.29382.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002759.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002760.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311412.29382.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 02:12:29 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002759.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2755">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2755">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2755">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2755">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 02:47:26 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: +><i> On Friday 29 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive +</I>><i> +</I>><i> from Kira <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A>> who wrote: +</I>><i> > This one is already been replied: In some place in this world, some +</I>><i> > countries don't have enough bandwidth to support such big downloading +</I>><i> > data(May cause days...). +</I>><i> > A might perfect solution is that making custom images according to the +</I>><i> > need of downloader, but currently we don't seem to have such plan. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fot such a case, a CD .iso that does a minimal install (with all locales +</I>><i> offered), and leave the big packages (OO, Gimp, all the games etc) to be +</I>><i> downloaded at leisure later. +</I> +Oh god nonono! You obviously have a broadband connection. + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ron. +</I> +CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd would take +a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free during the +day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the server supports +resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't find out +until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ + +People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. + +It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a dualsided +DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde sessions on both +sides and lots of options so that you can install a full system of your choice +from desktop to webserver without needing a broadband connection. + +Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic desktop +only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet it can't setup +a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do that no problem. + +Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. + +Cheers +GL + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002759.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2755">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2755">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2755">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2755">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002757.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002757.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36f3d074d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002757.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinA6d2Fz_%3DXi%3DEBOCXOiYuQdAX%3DZqLevZ4j6g53%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It works well. Is it going to appear on the list of KDE distro's +on this page: <A HREF="http://www.kde.org/info/4.5.2.php">http://www.kde.org/info/4.5.2.php</A> ? It would be easier to +find for other users. + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002758.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002760.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002760.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1ada7212f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002760.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaiuli%24pnr%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002755.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002766.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaiuli%24pnr%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 06:26:10 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2760">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2760">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2760">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2760">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-30 21:12, Graham Lauder a écrit : +><i> On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 02:47:26 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: +</I>>><i> On Friday 29 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> from Kira<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A>> who wrote: +</I>>>><i> This one is already been replied: In some place in this world, some +</I>>>><i> countries don't have enough bandwidth to support such big downloading +</I>>>><i> data(May cause days...). +</I>>>><i> A might perfect solution is that making custom images according to the +</I>>>><i> need of downloader, but currently we don't seem to have such plan. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Fot such a case, a CD .iso that does a minimal install (with all locales +</I>>><i> offered), and leave the big packages (OO, Gimp, all the games etc) to be +</I>>><i> downloaded at leisure later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh god nonono! You obviously have a broadband connection. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ron. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd would take +</I>><i> a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free during the +</I>><i> day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the server supports +</I>><i> resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't find out +</I>><i> until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +</I>><i> everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a dualsided +</I>><i> DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde sessions on both +</I>><i> sides and lots of options so that you can install a full system of your choice +</I>><i> from desktop to webserver without needing a broadband connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic desktop +</I>><i> only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet it can't setup +</I>><i> a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do that no problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> GL +</I>><i> +</I> +Would there be a way to restore the capability for dialup connection at +install time? + +I like the Community approach that Wobo suggested. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2760">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2760">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2760">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2760">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002761.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002761.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..28cc9ecd9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002761.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010310006540.16439%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002770.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002762.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137</H1> + <B>Dale Huckeby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010310006540.16439%40astro.scholar.athome%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137">spock at evansville.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 07:07:53 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Marc Paré wrote: + +><i> I am more in favour of the sequence, at installation, when you get to the +</I>><i> point where you choose "KDE" "GNOME" "Custom", the user picks "Custom" where +</I>><i> she/he is presented with options for "Young Family"; SOHO; "Gaming" +</I>><i> "Education"; "Business"; "Development"; etc. The user could pick more than +</I>><i> one choice that will bst suit the description of his present preference of +</I>><i> installation. Of course some of the packages may appear in one or more list, +</I>><i> but there will be no doubling of installed packages. These options are very +</I>><i> clear and easily understandable by all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Categories such as "Beginner" "Medium" "Advanced" and "Expert" are very +</I>><i> subjective terms. What one may consider an "Advanced" person may really be a +</I>><i> "Medium" user by someone else's definition and etc. +</I> +Options should be based on usage, not on a category the user belongs to. +Hence "Development" is a meaningful choice, because it describes a +specific kind of usage, whereas "Young Family" is basically incoherent. +Spell out the things you think a young family will typically use a +computer for, and let those USAGES be part of the list the person + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002762.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002762.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3a7e5e8dc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002762.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaj2qj%2461u%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002761.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002771.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaj2qj%2461u%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 07:37:06 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 02:07, Dale Huckeby a écrit : +><i> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Marc Paré wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I am more in favour of the sequence, at installation, when you get to +</I>>><i> the point where you choose "KDE" "GNOME" "Custom", the user picks +</I>>><i> "Custom" where she/he is presented with options for "Young Family"; +</I>>><i> SOHO; "Gaming" "Education"; "Business"; "Development"; etc. The user +</I>>><i> could pick more than one choice that will bst suit the description of +</I>>><i> his present preference of installation. Of course some of the packages +</I>>><i> may appear in one or more list, but there will be no doubling of +</I>>><i> installed packages. These options are very clear and easily +</I>>><i> understandable by all. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Categories such as "Beginner" "Medium" "Advanced" and "Expert" are +</I>>><i> very subjective terms. What one may consider an "Advanced" person may +</I>>><i> really be a "Medium" user by someone else's definition and etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Options should be based on usage, not on a category the user belongs to. +</I>><i> Hence "Development" is a meaningful choice, because it describes a +</I>><i> specific kind of usage, whereas "Young Family" is basically incoherent. +</I>><i> Spell out the things you think a young family will typically use a +</I>><i> computer for, and let those USAGES be part of the list the person +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Dale Huckeby +</I> +Hi Dale: + +I totally agree with this category. The different categories had only +been suggested and were still up to debate. I personally would not +recommend "Young Family" as, again, it is very subjective. I happen to +think that I have a very young family at heart but have been married for +over 25 years. + +The other categories that are not subjective: "Business"; "Web +Development"; "Academia"; "Education (Primary/Secondary"; "Music"; ... +and more. These categories would be discussed at length on this mailist +before submitting the proposal. And again, different software packages +could possibly apply to more than one category, but would still be only +installed once. + +These choices would then reflect that particular person or person(s) +expected usage of the distro. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002763.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002763.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..56ef55bdc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002763.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101031190542.a6ffb859.john%40neodoc.biz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002786.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002764.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>John</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C20101031190542.a6ffb859.john%40neodoc.biz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">john at neodoc.biz + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 07:05:42 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:12:29 +1300 +Graham Lauder wrote: + +><i> On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 02:47:26 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: +</I>><i> > On Friday 29 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > from Kira <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A>> who wrote: +</I>><i> > > This one is already been replied: In some place in this world, some +</I>><i> > > countries don't have enough bandwidth to support such big downloading +</I>><i> > > data(May cause days...). +</I>><i> > > A might perfect solution is that making custom images according to +</I>><i> > > the need of downloader, but currently we don't seem to have such +</I>><i> > > plan. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Fot such a case, a CD .iso that does a minimal install (with all +</I>><i> > locales offered), and leave the big packages (OO, Gimp, all the games +</I>><i> > etc) to be downloaded at leisure later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh god nonono! You obviously have a broadband connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Cheers, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Ron. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd +</I>><i> would take a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line +</I>><i> free during the day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the +</I>><i> server supports resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course +</I>><i> you don't find out until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +</I>><i> everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a +</I>><i> dualsided DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde +</I>><i> sessions on both sides and lots of options so that you can install a +</I>><i> full system of your choice from desktop to webserver without needing a +</I>><i> broadband connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic +</I>><i> desktop only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet +</I>><i> it can't setup a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do +</I>><i> that no problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. +</I>><i> +</I>Hear! Hear! Beers for that man!! + +John NZ +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002764.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002764.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..356af6447 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002764.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010310940.11964.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+therefore my help popups are controlled by two checkbuttons + (1) enable the popup feature permanently + (2) enable the popup feature once only + +(2) turns out to be particular useful + +Evidently, to use popups or not is a question of GUI style and must fit +into the overall "look" - but since this issue is being discussed: yet +another 2 cents. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002767.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002766.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002766.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..62784bef5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002766.html @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCD3F57.4030808%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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You can +</I>><i> find it here +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the simplest way to install all those rpms ? +</I>thanks + + +-- + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101031/e98f5b39/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002768.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2767">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2767">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2767">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2767">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002768.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002768.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b4c64fb26 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002768.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCD6051.6080706%40drdos.info%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002767.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002769.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive</H1> + <B>Doug Lytle</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCD6051.6080706%40drdos.info%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive">support at drdos.info + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 13:25:53 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002767.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2768">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2768">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2768">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2768">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Frederic Janssens wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the simplest way to install all those rpms ? +</I>><i> thanks +</I> +I added <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586</A> to +my mirrors list + +I then did a urpmi.update -a then a urpmi --auto-select --test + +The 'urpmi.update -a' will update your package list, the urpmi +'--auto-select --test' with pull down the updates, but won't apply. + +Once everything is downloaded, then run urpmi --auto-select without the +test to apply. + + +Doug + +-- +Ben Franklin quote: + +"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002767.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2768">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2768">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2768">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2768">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002769.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002769.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0d0ff83fd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002769.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vlfxlhtyct0cxl%40kira-notebook%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002768.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002776.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive</H1> + <B>Kira</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vlfxlhtyct0cxl%40kira-notebook%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 13:42:44 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002768.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2769">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2769">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2769">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2769">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>在 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:25:53 +0800, Doug Lytle <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">support at drdos.info</A>>寫道: + +><i> Frederic Janssens wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What is the simplest way to install all those rpms ? +</I>>><i> thanks +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I added <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586</A> to +</I>><i> my mirrors list +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I then did a urpmi.update -a then a urpmi --auto-select --test +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The 'urpmi.update -a' will update your package list, the urpmi +</I>><i> '--auto-select --test' with pull down the updates, but won't apply. +</I>Janssens, you can also use MCC to add the repository, and remember + +to change the repository address according to your machine arch( the + +address given is i586, change to x86_64: + +<A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/x86_64">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/x86_64</A> ) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002768.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2769">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2769">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2769">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2769">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002770.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002770.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d80af2cb4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002770.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311414.03626.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002764.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002761.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311414.03626.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 14:14:03 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2770">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2770">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2770">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2770">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Den 2010-10-31 02:12:29 skrev Graham Lauder: +><i> On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 02:47:26 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: +</I>><i> > On Friday 29 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > from Kira <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A>> who wrote: +</I>><i> > > This one is already been replied: In some place in this world, some +</I>><i> > > countries don't have enough bandwidth to support such big downloading +</I>><i> > > data(May cause days...). +</I>><i> > > A might perfect solution is that making custom images according to the +</I>><i> > > need of downloader, but currently we don't seem to have such plan. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Fot such a case, a CD .iso that does a minimal install (with all locales +</I>><i> > offered), and leave the big packages (OO, Gimp, all the games etc) to be +</I>><i> > downloaded at leisure later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh god nonono! You obviously have a broadband connection. +</I> +Well, it is stil a good idea then, as only the needed packages need be +downloaded. + + +><i> CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd would +</I>><i> take a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free +</I>><i> during the day and early evening. +</I> +I remeber when i also had to have a CD running for a week. + +I would have appreciated if i could geta base install, and then just add what +big parts I really needed. + +><i> (that's of course as long as the server +</I>><i> supports resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't +</I>><i> find out until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ +</I> +We should always make sure to have bittorrent working. +Bittorrent checks and auto re-downloads broken parts. +It can even repair broken isos. + +Unfortunately *some* people use ISPs that supress bittorent traffic. + +><i> People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +</I>><i> everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. +</I>... +><i> Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. +</I> +Yes full DVD(s) for thoose that need it would be good for them. + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2770">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2770">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2770">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2770">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002771.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002771.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bcc8f17eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002771.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010310827340.11465%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002762.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002773.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137</H1> + <B>Dale Huckeby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010310827340.11465%40astro.scholar.athome%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137">spock at evansville.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 15:51:55 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2771">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2771">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2771">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2771">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Marc Paré wrote: +><i> Le 2010-10-31 02:07, Dale Huckeby a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Options should be based on usage, not on a category the user belongs to. +</I>>><i> Hence "Development" is a meaningful choice, because it describes a +</I>>><i> specific kind of usage, whereas "Young Family" is basically incoherent. +</I>>><i> Spell out the things you think a young family will typically use a +</I>>><i> computer for, and let those USAGES be part of the list the person +</I>>><i> [doing the install chooses from.] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi Dale: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I totally agree with this category. The different categories had only been +</I>><i> suggested and were still up to debate. I personally would not recommend +</I>><i> "Young Family" as, again, it is very subjective. I happen to think that I +</I>><i> have a very young family at heart but have been married for over 25 years. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The other categories that are not subjective: "Business"; "Web Development"; +</I>><i> "Academia"; "Education (Primary/Secondary"; "Music"; ... and more. These +</I>><i> categories would be discussed at length on this mailist before submitting the +</I>><i> proposal. And again, different software packages could possibly apply to more +</I>><i> than one category, but would still be only installed once. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> These choices would then reflect that particular person or person(s) expected +</I>><i> usage of the distro. +</I>Marc, + +While we agree that "Young Family" doesn't work, it seems to me some of the +other categories are similarly broad. A useful rule of thumb would be to +focus not on types of persons or groups but on activities. Since "young +family" is not an activity, whereas "web development" is, that gives us an +objective reason for preferring the latter over the former as a useful +category. Likewise for "academia". Not all academics have the same needs, +for instance adminstrators versus research professors versus adjuncts who +teach and don't do research, yet all would fall under the term "academic". +In addition, a given college professor is not going to use his or her +computer only AS a professor, and his or her other activities, playing +poker online, playing games offline, buying and selling stocks and bonds, +etc. would vary widely from person to person. + +That's why I would focus more narrowly on what a person wants to DO with +his computer, in terms of *specific* tasks or activities. Early in the +process I would ask him what sorts of things he wants to use his computer +for and then list all the things he CAN do with it, each of which can be +selected or ignored. It MIGHT be useful to note, without it necessarily +being a selectable category, some of the things (and the apps that would +go with them) a typical high school teacher or rabid sports fan or +writer or stock market player might want to do or, alternatively, we +could indicate, along with the description of the uses of a particular +app or closely linked set of apps, what kinds of people might find +such app(s) useful, and why. All of this is a way of saying, which I +think we're in general agreement on, that we should be careful not +to cast too broad a net with our categories, that each should embody +a *particular* activity or *closely* linked set of activities. + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2771">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2771">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2771">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2771">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002772.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002772.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d5b5256c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002772.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311558.12327.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002776.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002774.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311558.12327.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 15:58:12 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2010 21:35:58 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +><i> 2010/10/29 andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>><i> > In other words, nothing focused on bandwidth-restricted users. +</I>><i> > Unless, of course, they get the DVD (or CD) without downloading it +</I>><i> > themselves. +</I>><i> > Which brings to mind the idea of shipping or otherwise distributing +</I>><i> > ready-written DVDs and live CDs. And why not a live DVD ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's what the communities have been doing all the time. Example: the +</I>><i> German community has an offer for such people to ask for a dvd, +</I>><i> somebody will burn the dvd and send it to him via snail mail and he +</I>><i> will pay (voluntarily) 5 Euros as donation to the community. As I +</I>><i> learned, a similar offer is on in other communites as well. No problem +</I>><i> to continue this way, /me thinks. +</I> +We should have some kind of way to assure people that some of the "community +regional CDs generated by some communities themselves" are "official"; and some +process of generating and someone from the release/security team who can +validate the generated community ISO. + +do we actually have a release/security team? + +a team with people who will build ISO's/ validate community ISO's; handle +security updates; etc... ? + +we should, imho. + +Maarten +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002773.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002773.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bcb960abd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002773.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak175%24era%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002771.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002765.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20137&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak175%24era%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 16:15:48 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2773">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2773">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2773">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2773">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 10:51, Dale Huckeby a écrit : + +><i> +</I>><i> While we agree that "Young Family" doesn't work, it seems to me some of the +</I>><i> other categories are similarly broad. A useful rule of thumb would be to +</I>><i> focus not on types of persons or groups but on activities. Since "young +</I>><i> family" is not an activity, whereas "web development" is, that gives us an +</I>><i> objective reason for preferring the latter over the former as a useful +</I>><i> category. Likewise for "academia". Not all academics have the same needs, +</I>><i> for instance adminstrators versus research professors versus adjuncts who +</I>><i> teach and don't do research, yet all would fall under the term "academic". +</I>><i> In addition, a given college professor is not going to use his or her +</I>><i> computer only AS a professor, and his or her other activities, playing +</I>><i> poker online, playing games offline, buying and selling stocks and bonds, +</I>><i> etc. would vary widely from person to person. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's why I would focus more narrowly on what a person wants to DO with +</I>><i> his computer, in terms of *specific* tasks or activities. Early in the +</I>><i> process I would ask him what sorts of things he wants to use his computer +</I>><i> for and then list all the things he CAN do with it, each of which can be +</I>><i> selected or ignored. It MIGHT be useful to note, without it necessarily +</I>><i> being a selectable category, some of the things (and the apps that would +</I>><i> go with them) a typical high school teacher or rabid sports fan or +</I>><i> writer or stock market player might want to do or, alternatively, we +</I>><i> could indicate, along with the description of the uses of a particular +</I>><i> app or closely linked set of apps, what kinds of people might find +</I>><i> such app(s) useful, and why. All of this is a way of saying, which I +</I>><i> think we're in general agreement on, that we should be careful not +</I>><i> to cast too broad a net with our categories, that each should embody +</I>><i> a *particular* activity or *closely* linked set of activities. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Dale Huckeby +</I> +Here we agree again. There would be nothing to stop that section, for +example, "Academia" to open up to subsets of "Academia-Reasearch"; +"Academia-Administrator (office)"; "Academia-Teaching" etc. + +And yes, if they play poker online, they would then have checked the +"Gaming" category. + +The choosing of these categories are what the person wants to DO with +her/his computer. What you are suggesting is to ask her/him what they +would want to do and they would answer by categories. So why add such a +layer when we could already dispense with this layer and go straight to +the categories? + +There are only a certain amount of programmes available and therefore +the same for categories. We can offer the categories. If some of the +categories are broad, then, when picked, we could have for example, a +drop down extended menu from that categories with a sub-set of more +descriptive categories. And, remember, that software packages will +bridge the categories where they fit in more than one. + +We are saying the same thing but with different approaches. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2773">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2773">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2773">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2773">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002774.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002774.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3b7765ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002774.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak1h3%24g3a%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002772.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002777.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak1h3%24g3a%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 16:21:06 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2774">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2774">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2774">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2774">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 10:58, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2010 21:35:58 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>>><i> 2010/10/29 andre999<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>>>><i> In other words, nothing focused on bandwidth-restricted users. +</I>>>><i> Unless, of course, they get the DVD (or CD) without downloading it +</I>>>><i> themselves. +</I>>>><i> Which brings to mind the idea of shipping or otherwise distributing +</I>>>><i> ready-written DVDs and live CDs. And why not a live DVD ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That's what the communities have been doing all the time. Example: the +</I>>><i> German community has an offer for such people to ask for a dvd, +</I>>><i> somebody will burn the dvd and send it to him via snail mail and he +</I>>><i> will pay (voluntarily) 5 Euros as donation to the community. As I +</I>>><i> learned, a similar offer is on in other communites as well. No problem +</I>>><i> to continue this way, /me thinks. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We should have some kind of way to assure people that some of the "community +</I>><i> regional CDs generated by some communities themselves" are "official"; and some +</I>><i> process of generating and someone from the release/security team who can +</I>><i> validate the generated community ISO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> do we actually have a release/security team? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> a team with people who will build ISO's/ validate community ISO's; handle +</I>><i> security updates; etc... ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> we should, imho. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maarten +</I>><i> +</I> +I think we should just keep it simple and trust that our communities are +publishing the correct official versions. I would suspect that we are +more interested in spreading the use of Mageia than in having to tell +people to wait for a certified disk. As a general rule in retailing: "If +your client is in the store looking for an item, if you have convinced +him/her of that item, if the client leaves the store, the likelihood of +having that client come back are very slim." In other words, if someone +asks for a CD from a community, if they have to wait too long, we will +lose our chances at keeping that new user. + +I, myself, would feel confident that the Communities would be dispensing +the Mageia product in good faith. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2774">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2774">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2774">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2774">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002775.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002775.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..538e564b7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002775.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak1ml%24g3a%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002766.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002779.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciak1ml%24g3a%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 16:24:05 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2775">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2775">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2775">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2775">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 06:05, Juergen Harms a écrit : +><i> On 10/31/2010 06:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote: +</I>>><i> I like the Community approach that Wobo suggested. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes - and that could be done also for less well-organized +</I>><i> sub-communities: there might simply be a list of "neighbours" who are +</I>><i> willing to help out (unless slow dial-up lines are due to a general lack +</I>><i> of local infrastructure and neighbours with good connectivity are far +</I>><i> away). +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree. This is where a great Mageia Community would delegate the CD +burning to a member or "neighbour". Maybe even offer some help with +installation and trouble-shooting too. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2775">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2775">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2775">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2775">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002776.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002776.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..38735e4cf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002776.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimiYnsT15iZwn5h-9aUAMoon3HgU7100Rhb5ofk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002769.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002772.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive</H1> + <B>Frederic Janssens</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20KDE%204.5.2%20for%20Mandrive&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimiYnsT15iZwn5h-9aUAMoon3HgU7100Rhb5ofk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive">fjanss at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 17:01:57 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2776">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2776">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2776">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2776">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 13:25, Doug Lytle <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">support at drdos.info</A>> wrote: + +><i> Frederic Janssens wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What is the simplest way to install all those rpms ? +</I>>><i> thanks +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I added <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.5.2/Mandriva/2010.1/i586</A> to my +</I>><i> mirrors list +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I then did a urpmi.update -a then a urpmi --auto-select --test +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The 'urpmi.update -a' will update your package list, the urpmi +</I>><i> '--auto-select --test' with pull down the updates, but won't apply. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Once everything is downloaded, then run urpmi --auto-select without the +</I>><i> test to apply. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug-- +</I>><i> +</I> +Thanks, I'm now in 4.5.2. + + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101031/6db96034/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2776">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2776">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2776">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2776">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002777.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002777.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..55c53a5b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002777.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311733.28587.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002774.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002778.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010311733.28587.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 17:33:28 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 31 oktober 2010 16:21:06 schreef Marc Paré: +><i> Le 2010-10-31 10:58, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2010 21:35:58 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>><i> >> 2010/10/29 andre999<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>><i> >>> In other words, nothing focused on bandwidth-restricted users. +</I>><i> >>> Unless, of course, they get the DVD (or CD) without downloading it +</I>><i> >>> themselves. +</I>><i> >>> Which brings to mind the idea of shipping or otherwise distributing +</I>><i> >>> ready-written DVDs and live CDs. And why not a live DVD ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> That's what the communities have been doing all the time. Example: the +</I>><i> >> German community has an offer for such people to ask for a dvd, +</I>><i> >> somebody will burn the dvd and send it to him via snail mail and he +</I>><i> >> will pay (voluntarily) 5 Euros as donation to the community. As I +</I>><i> >> learned, a similar offer is on in other communites as well. No problem +</I>><i> >> to continue this way, /me thinks. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We should have some kind of way to assure people that some of the +</I>><i> > "community regional CDs generated by some communities themselves" are +</I>><i> > "official"; and some process of generating and someone from the +</I>><i> > release/security team who can validate the generated community ISO. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > do we actually have a release/security team? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > a team with people who will build ISO's/ validate community ISO's; handle +</I>><i> > security updates; etc... ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > we should, imho. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maarten +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think we should just keep it simple and trust that our communities are +</I>><i> publishing the correct official versions. I would suspect that we are +</I>><i> more interested in spreading the use of Mageia than in having to tell +</I>><i> people to wait for a certified disk. As a general rule in retailing: "If +</I>><i> your client is in the store looking for an item, if you have convinced +</I>><i> him/her of that item, if the client leaves the store, the likelihood of +</I>><i> having that client come back are very slim." In other words, if someone +</I>><i> asks for a CD from a community, if they have to wait too long, we will +</I>><i> lose our chances at keeping that new user. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I, myself, would feel confident that the Communities would be dispensing +</I>><i> the Mageia product in good faith. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> + +well, in any case, we should have some kind of policy regarding packages; the +"official community versions" should be built in more or less the same way with +the same base packages, diff translations and diff other packages. + +some kind of policy would be required here, to be able to handle bug reports +from that medium + +also, the iso packager(s) should then be listed in bugzilla as contact for +that. in case of releases being from there. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002778.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002778.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8e118cd1a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002778.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DX9VO2O2syh9ZpDV4vPgbCHCMXMc2UjBhqpEZF%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002777.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002782.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DX9VO2O2syh9ZpDV4vPgbCHCMXMc2UjBhqpEZF%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 18:41:57 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2778">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2778">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2778">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2778">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/31 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> well, in any case, we should have some kind of policy regarding packages; the +</I>><i> "official community versions" should be built in more or less the same way with +</I>><i> the same base packages, diff translations and diff other packages. +</I> +Hmm, this would take away the freedom of choice and creation from the +makers of the special community editions. Take one of the existing +editions, the MUD LXDE Edition, which was compiled on the basis of a +Mandriva ONE but without all the Gnome/KDE stuff, without firefox and +OpenOffice, with the goal to create an edition for low ressources +machines. Having a packages policy there would limit the options for +such special editions. + +There is the official edition (or editions) which will be rolled out +by Mageia, and here a policy comes without asking. But "non-official" +like a Navit Editionm or a XFCE Edition should be very free in choice +of the their packages. Otherwise special editions make no sense. If +you have to stick to a basic package set you don't need special +editions, all you need are "task" meta-packages. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2778">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2778">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2778">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2778">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002779.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002779.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0d8f515cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002779.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCDAC30.8080704%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002775.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002780.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCDAC30.8080704%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 18:49:36 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2779">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2779">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2779">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2779">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/31/2010 04:24 PM, Marc Paré wrote: +><i> I agree. This is where a great Mageia Community would delegate the CD +</I>><i> burning to a member or "neighbour". Maybe even offer some help with +</I>><i> installation and trouble-shooting too. +</I> +Yes, that is the spirit of my suggestion (and that does not go far +beyond what is happening all the time in a forum). + +I start wondering: is there a hidden formal issue with sending CDROMs +"left and right" - not within a more or less well-defined Mageia-userxx +community? Certainly no problem if I give a couple of CDROMs to some +neighbours I know (for instance via forum acquaintanceship). But what if +I do the same thing with people I dont know at all? and, moreover, if I +start claiming that I do this "on behalf of / by delegation from Mageia? + +Would be good if - once the time comes - Mageia formulates a couple of +words on what Mageia considers good practice, and what not. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2779">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2779">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2779">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2779">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002780.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002780.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c2e7130d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002780.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciakiet%24ks5%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002779.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002786.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciakiet%24ks5%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 21:10:04 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2780">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2780">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2780">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2780">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 13:49, Juergen Harms a écrit : +><i> On 10/31/2010 04:24 PM, Marc Paré wrote: +</I>>><i> I agree. This is where a great Mageia Community would delegate the CD +</I>>><i> burning to a member or "neighbour". Maybe even offer some help with +</I>>><i> installation and trouble-shooting too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, that is the spirit of my suggestion (and that does not go far +</I>><i> beyond what is happening all the time in a forum). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I start wondering: is there a hidden formal issue with sending CDROMs +</I>><i> "left and right" - not within a more or less well-defined Mageia-userxx +</I>><i> community? Certainly no problem if I give a couple of CDROMs to some +</I>><i> neighbours I know (for instance via forum acquaintanceship). But what if +</I>><i> I do the same thing with people I dont know at all? and, moreover, if I +</I>><i> start claiming that I do this "on behalf of / by delegation from Mageia? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would be good if - once the time comes - Mageia formulates a couple of +</I>><i> words on what Mageia considers good practice, and what not. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, then, it would be good if Mageia had a policy regarding the burning +of discs. However, let's remember that a user asking for a DVD due to +his not being able to download from the Mageia site is asking for help +to download the Mageia product from the Mageia site. She/He could in +essence be given a computer a the Community (headquarters) and he/she +could download and burn the ISO. There would be no need for a policy in +this case. + +Now if a member of the Community did the same, would this be in the name +of the Mageia group. + +I can see where the Community "mass" produced the discs and started +passing them to complete strangers who had no idea of Mageia, well, then +there should be a policy about the burning and of the community involvement. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2780">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2780">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2780">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2780">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002781.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002781.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61bc9310e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002781.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciakiu8%24mp9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002782.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002783.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciakiu8%24mp9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 21:18:15 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2781">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2781">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2781">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2781">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-31 12:33, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : + +><i> well, in any case, we should have some kind of policy regarding packages; the +</I>><i> "official community versions" should be built in more or less the same way with +</I>><i> the same base packages, diff translations and diff other packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> some kind of policy would be required here, to be able to handle bug reports +</I>><i> from that medium +</I>><i> +</I>><i> also, the iso packager(s) should then be listed in bugzilla as contact for +</I>><i> that. in case of releases being from there. +</I>><i> +</I> +I would assume that someone asking for help due to a slow connection, +would be wanting the Mageia downloaded DVD. I had not thought that there +would be a community version. Would that be kind of a fork of the +official DVD version? I honestly had not considered that this was being +done, but now I can well imagine that for example, a German Mageia +Community would create its own version and distribute this. I would +imagine then that that particular German Community would the assume +responsibility over the DVD and any reported bugs? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2781">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2781">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2781">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2781">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002782.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002782.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9906857a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002782.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010312152.49449.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002778.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002781.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010312152.49449.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 21:52:49 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2782">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2782">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2782">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2782">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 31 oktober 2010 18:41:57 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +><i> 2010/10/31 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > well, in any case, we should have some kind of policy regarding packages; +</I>><i> > the "official community versions" should be built in more or less the +</I>><i> > same way with the same base packages, diff translations and diff other +</I>><i> > packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hmm, this would take away the freedom of choice and creation from the +</I>><i> makers of the special community editions. Take one of the existing +</I>><i> editions, the MUD LXDE Edition, which was compiled on the basis of a +</I>><i> Mandriva ONE but without all the Gnome/KDE stuff, without firefox and +</I>><i> OpenOffice, with the goal to create an edition for low ressources +</I>><i> machines. Having a packages policy there would limit the options for +</I>><i> such special editions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is the official edition (or editions) which will be rolled out +</I>><i> by Mageia, and here a policy comes without asking. But "non-official" +</I>><i> like a Navit Editionm or a XFCE Edition should be very free in choice +</I>><i> of the their packages. Otherwise special editions make no sense. If +</I>><i> you have to stick to a basic package set you don't need special +</I>><i> editions, all you need are "task" meta-packages. +</I> +I was merely stating that there should be a sort of policy: + +eg: + +* please only include rpms from this current stable tree" +* please include at least task-basesystem and blabla + +i'm not saying stuff has to be strict, only well enough so we know that no +unstable, testing, and other rpms are on the ISOs, so when users come +complaining about something that we don't look in the wrong place... + +in effect, it could be like some sort of certification. + +like knowing after stable release that people aren't having the alpha's or +beta's... + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2782">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2782">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2782">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2782">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002783.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002783.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..48970ea84 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002783.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010312155.11527.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002781.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002784.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C201010312155.11527.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 31 21:55:11 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002784.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2783">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2783">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2783">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2783">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 31 oktober 2010 21:18:15 schreef Marc Paré: +><i> Le 2010-10-31 12:33, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > well, in any case, we should have some kind of policy regarding packages; +</I>><i> > the "official community versions" should be built in more or less the +</I>><i> > same way with the same base packages, diff translations and diff other +</I>><i> > packages. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > some kind of policy would be required here, to be able to handle bug +</I>><i> > reports from that medium +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > also, the iso packager(s) should then be listed in bugzilla as contact +</I>><i> > for that. in case of releases being from there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would assume that someone asking for help due to a slow connection, +</I>><i> would be wanting the Mageia downloaded DVD. I had not thought that there +</I>><i> would be a community version. Would that be kind of a fork of the +</I>><i> official DVD version? I honestly had not considered that this was being +</I>><i> done, but now I can well imagine that for example, a German Mageia +</I>><i> Community would create its own version and distribute this. I would +</I>><i> imagine then that that particular German Community would the assume +</I>><i> responsibility over the DVD and any reported bugs? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +I wouldn't go so far. they could, but they probably won't want to deal with +the bugs themselves. + +The reason i state this is just so that people from that community could get +help easily. + +also, it could kind of be there to help the iso packagers to make working +release media. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002784.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2783">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2783">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2783">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2783">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002784.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002784.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f70a2430c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002784.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3Ciakmpi%2483o%243%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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even though i said policy (and i kinda +believe in it like that as well; some kind of security guarantees for mageia's +users), but i see it more like guidelines; like the RPM packaging wiki; +there's a policy on stuff, but in reality mdv packagers are pretty free to do +it how they want. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002784.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2785">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2785">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2785">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2785">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002786.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002786.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..69964e182 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101031/002786.html @@ -0,0 +1,151 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CCDF3B9.5090004%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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You obviously have a broadband connection. +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Ron. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd +</I>>><i> would take +</I>>><i> a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free +</I>>><i> during the +</I>>><i> day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the server supports +</I>>><i> resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't +</I>>><i> find out +</I>>><i> until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ +</I>Current Mandriva downloads can be resumed. (Sometimes have to do that +many times during DVD downloads.) You can resume from another server if +necessary. (Which I have already had to do when my nearest server went +down for maintenance.) +I use aria2 (console application), for which I've also configured Rpmdrake. +Just have to ensure that the downloader can resume. I think the default +downloader (wget ?) can resume as well. +>><i> +</I>>><i> People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +</I>>><i> everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. +</I>Very true. Although having to download the occasional program shouldn't +cause problems. +>><i> +</I>>><i> It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a +</I>>><i> dualsided +</I>>><i> DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde sessions +</I>>><i> on both +</I>>><i> sides and lots of options so that you can install a full system of +</I>>><i> your choice +</I>>><i> from desktop to webserver without needing a broadband connection. +</I>That is a fantastic way of doing it. +(Well, evidently not totally on the side of fantasy :) ) +If the 32-bit is put on the first side, potential users with one-sided +dvd readers could still access what they need. 64-bit users would +almost assuredly having readers capable of reading both sides. +In less rich markets, many users would still have CD writers with DVD +reading capabilities, as long as it is one-sided. +>><i> +</I>>><i> Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic +</I>>><i> desktop +</I>>><i> only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet it +</I>>><i> can't setup +</I>>><i> a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do that no problem. +</I>If MDK 8 did it (on the "one" CDs I presume), it shouldn't be difficult +to ensure that on the first Mageia release. +>><i> +</I>>><i> Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. +</I>The approach in Germany - 5 euros volontary donation sounds good to me. +Basically covering the cost of the DVD and mailing. +I still have this image of you passing out free ISOs at a trade show ... :) +>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>>><i> GL +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would there be a way to restore the capability for dialup connection +</I>><i> at install time? +</I>That's currently available with Mandriva, unless I'm mistaken. +There is (at least was recently) a question for other media and network +connexion for download. The connexion could be dialup or other. +However there is the tricky problem of ensuring that the appropriate +dialup drivers are available. I understand that the "one" CDs have such +pilots, but not the "free" DVDs (which I use). +><i> +</I>><i> I like the Community approach that Wobo suggested. +</I>+ 1000 :) +I think being decentralised (by local community) has the advantage of +being able to adapt to local conditions, as well. +><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +- André + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2786">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2786">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2786">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2786">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git 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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 23:54:49 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 32<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="002754.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2754"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002757.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2757"> </A> +<I>rom1dep +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002758.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2758"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002759.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2759"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002767.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2767"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002768.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2768"> </A> +<I>Doug Lytle +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2769"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2776"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2761"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2762"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2765"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2771"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2773"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2755"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2760"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A 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for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2778"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2779"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2780"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2781"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2782"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2783"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002784.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2784"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002785.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2785"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2786"> </A> 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01288477325-01288492158-01288493436- --> +<LI><A HREF="002758.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2758"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01288477325-01288492158-01288493436-01288502394- --> +<LI><A HREF="002759.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2759"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01288487549- --> +<LI><A HREF="002755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2755"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01288487549-01288502770- --> +<LI><A HREF="002760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2760"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01288487549-01288502770-01288519511- --> +<LI><A HREF="002766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2766"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01288487549-01288502770-01288519511-01288538645- --> +<LI><A HREF="002775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2775"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01288487549-01288502770-01288519511-01288538645-01288547376- --> +<LI><A HREF="002779.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2779"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<!--3 01288487549-01288502770-01288519511-01288538645-01288547376-01288555804- --> +<LI><A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2780"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01288487549-01288502770-01288565689- --> +<LI><A HREF="002786.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2786"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01288487549-01288505142- --> +<LI><A HREF="002763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2763"> </A> +<I>John +</I> + +<!--1 01288487549-01288514411- --> +<LI><A HREF="002764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2764"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<!--1 01288487549-01288530843- --> +<LI><A HREF="002770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2770"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01288505273- --> +<LI><A HREF="002761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2761"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01288505273-01288507026- --> +<LI><A HREF="002762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2762"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01288505273-01288507026-01288536715- --> +<LI><A HREF="002771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2771"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01288505273-01288507026-01288536715-01288538148- --> +<LI><A HREF="002773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2773"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01288518939- --> +<LI><A HREF="002765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 137 +</A><A NAME="2765"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<!--0 01288525692- --> +<LI><A HREF="002767.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2767"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01288525692-01288527953- --> +<LI><A HREF="002768.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2768"> </A> +<I>Doug Lytle +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01288525692-01288527953-01288528964- --> +<LI><A HREF="002769.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2769"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<!--2 01288525692-01288527953-01288540917- --> +<LI><A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] KDE 4.5.2 for Mandrive +</A><A NAME="2776"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01288537092- --> +<LI><A HREF="002772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2772"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01288537092-01288538466- --> +<LI><A HREF="002774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2774"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808- --> +<LI><A HREF="002777.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2777"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288546917- --> +<LI><A HREF="002778.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2778"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288546917-01288558369- --> +<LI><A HREF="002782.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2782"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288556295- --> +<LI><A HREF="002781.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2781"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288556295-01288558511- --> +<LI><A HREF="002783.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2783"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288556295-01288558511-01288560242- --> +<LI><A HREF="002784.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2784"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01288537092-01288538466-01288542808-01288556295-01288558511-01288560242-01288560884- --> +<LI><A HREF="002785.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A><A NAME="2785"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Oct 31 23:54:49 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 31 23:54:58 CET 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |