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You obviously have a broadband connection. +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Ron. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd +</I>>><i> would take +</I>>><i> a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free +</I>>><i> during the +</I>>><i> day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the server supports +</I>>><i> resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't +</I>>><i> find out +</I>>><i> until the end, then you have to start all over. :/ +</I>Current Mandriva downloads can be resumed. (Sometimes have to do that +many times during DVD downloads.) You can resume from another server if +necessary. (Which I have already had to do when my nearest server went +down for maintenance.) +I use aria2 (console application), for which I've also configured Rpmdrake. +Just have to ensure that the downloader can resume. I think the default +downloader (wget ?) can resume as well. +>><i> +</I>>><i> People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with +</I>>><i> everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible. +</I>Very true. Although having to download the occasional program shouldn't +cause problems. +>><i> +</I>>><i> It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a +</I>>><i> dualsided +</I>>><i> DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde sessions +</I>>><i> on both +</I>>><i> sides and lots of options so that you can install a full system of +</I>>><i> your choice +</I>>><i> from desktop to webserver without needing a broadband connection. +</I>That is a fantastic way of doing it. +(Well, evidently not totally on the side of fantasy :) ) +If the 32-bit is put on the first side, potential users with one-sided +dvd readers could still access what they need. 64-bit users would +almost assuredly having readers capable of reading both sides. +In less rich markets, many users would still have CD writers with DVD +reading capabilities, as long as it is one-sided. +>><i> +</I>>><i> Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic +</I>>><i> desktop +</I>>><i> only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet it +</I>>><i> can't setup +</I>>><i> a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do that no problem. +</I>If MDK 8 did it (on the "one" CDs I presume), it shouldn't be difficult +to ensure that on the first Mageia release. +>><i> +</I>>><i> Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price. +</I>The approach in Germany - 5 euros volontary donation sounds good to me. +Basically covering the cost of the DVD and mailing. +I still have this image of you passing out free ISOs at a trade show ... :) +>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>>><i> GL +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would there be a way to restore the capability for dialup connection +</I>><i> at install time? +</I>That's currently available with Mandriva, unless I'm mistaken. +There is (at least was recently) a question for other media and network +connexion for download. The connexion could be dialup or other. +However there is the tricky problem of ensuring that the appropriate +dialup drivers are available. I understand that the "one" CDs have such +pilots, but not the "free" DVDs (which I use). +><i> +</I>><i> I like the Community approach that Wobo suggested. +</I>+ 1000 :) +I think being decentralised (by local community) has the advantage of +being able to adapt to local conditions, as well. +><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +- André + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002780.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2786">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2786">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2786">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2786">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |