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I don't +</I>><i> really have time to do marketing 101 here and It's wasting my time when I +</I>><i> could be doing the more useful things that the Founders have asked us to do. +</I>><i> +</I> +Now this last comment does not at all follow the Values... +The "more useful things to do" approach is never a good argument... ever... + +><i> However: +</I>><i> Marketing raises Brand awareness +</I>><i> It connects a value with the product in the Consumers mind +</I>><i> It connects a brand with people on an emotional level +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's it, Getting people to use it is Sales which is a different beast +</I>><i> altogether. +</I>><i> +</I> +True. + +><i> We get people to see the brand, connect with the brand and then think about +</I>><i> investigating it after that it's sales and engineering. +</I>><i> +</I> +But as one point already made, namely the "engineering part"... +It does not help if we get a brand, but no developers & testers that is +interested in it... + +>><i> +</I>>><i> Software is not a car or a handbag or a jacket, those are items where +</I>>><i> looks and design counts a lot, with software the only design that counts +</I>>><i> is UI interface design aimed at maximising usability. +</I>><i> +</I> +One thing that we must be careful about is the "maximising usability" +part, as it's easy to get it so "dumbed down" that it ends up +useless/annoying for many users... + +><i> +</I>><i> There is an old saying there are none so blind as those that will not see, and +</I>><i> it doesn't matter how good the UI is, if no-one looks at it, it's the same for +</I>><i> anything, you can make it as pretty and as usable as you want if nobody knows +</I>><i> the brand exists then the only ones that will connect are the ones that +</I>><i> stumble across it accidentally. +</I>><i> +</I> +True. + +><i> Once more, this is wasting my time and there is no point in discussing this +</I>><i> with a closed mind and entrenched attitudes. +</I>><i> +</I> +and the Values got hit again :( +please think before you write. + +And if you think of the last statement, the "closed mind" part goes both +ways. +Many things in this discussion does come out as "closed marketing mind" +vs "closed user/developer mind". + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002383.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |