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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>On mandriva forum [1] now was a post about OpenSuSE build system can package
+rpm so they work on different Linux distributions.
+
+<A HREF="http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/cross_distribution_package_how_to">http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/cross_distribution_package_how_to</A>
+
+&quot;The Build Service can reliably package rpms for not only openSUSE, but also
+recent SLES, CentOS, Fedora, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Ubuntu, Debian and
+Mandriva distributions.&quot;
+
+It may not need much more work?
+
+Benefit is that maybe more work could be shared between distributions.
+
+And if other dists could use Mageia packages, it is a way to draw attention ;)
+
+But maybe it slows other progress such as future move to rpm5, general
+installation and build system development?
+
+[1]: <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132237">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132237</A>
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-08
+&gt;<i> On mandriva forum [1] now was a post about OpenSuSE build system can
+</I>&gt;<i> package rpm so they work on different Linux distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Benefit is that maybe more work could be shared between distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if other dists could use Mageia packages, it is a way to draw attention
+</I>When building x-distro on OBS you don't build one package for all distros. The
+OBS builds one package per distro and you may have to use if-clauses in the
+spec, when macros, package names and things like that defer between the
+distros.
+
+And you can't rebuild the srpms on other distros without editing the specs
+because there are obs specific macros.
+
+Oliver
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+ <B>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a</B>
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+<PRE>&#22312; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:50:41 +0800, St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</A> ...
+</I>It might bring in some confusion, but the content is completely different,
+
+which should be just right.
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 8 octobre 2010 11:50:41, St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</A> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Mageia trademark is registred at the INPI (French trademark and patents office)
+for several classes useful for computing by member of the Mageia project
+
+Olivier
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+Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 11:50 +0200, St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</A> ...
+</I>
+We had a quite long and complex research to find a name :
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100920/000315.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100920/000315.html</A>
+
+Then we indeed stumbled on the fact that the .com was used but this was
+not seen as a problem since there is a lot of precedent in free
+software :
+
+apache.com is not affiliated with apache.org
+ (.com registered before .org )
+
+ubuntu.com is not affiliated with ubuntu.org
+ (.org registered 2 years before .com )
+
+gnome.com is not affiliated with gnome.org
+ (.com 2 years before .org )
+
+python.com is not affiliated with python.org
+ (.com 1 year before .org)
+
+I just took the biggest projects I could think, but afaik, none of them
+had a problem based on dns alone. To have a problem like Mandrakesoft or
+Mobilix had, the problem need to be taken from a trademark point of
+view. And if you look on the list I gave, this was checked ( now, we
+forgot to check association name, but we worked around it quite
+easily ).
+
+People asked the question in the past :
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100921/000567.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100921/000567.html</A>
+
+So yes, we are aware. It is like computer security, just a question of
+evaluating the risk. And I think we are not doing much harm to them
+( and that we do not want ), neither the do to us. This is basically a
+brick and mortar shop. The trademark law is quite clear, you have to
+explicitly tell the domain of your mark, and so does the DNS system
+( ie, you have to use a tld ).
+
+And you are you aware you are sending html mail on this list :) ?
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE> Am 24.09.2010 17:04, schrieb Juergen Harms:
+&gt;<i> On 09/24/2010 02:15 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I mean, I have a problem, I report the bug, and I keep bothering until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone answer me.
+</I>&gt;<i> The other point is that somewhere in Mageia there needs to be a an anchor for
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;bugzilla awareness&quot; - just not let bugzilla simmer along, make sure that
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla handling fulfills its job as an essential part of Mageia QA. No
+</I>&gt;<i> offense, my experience is that - except during periods of release
+</I>&gt;<i> finalisation - it did simmer, at least in the average - even if there were
+</I>&gt;<i> some very devoted and expeditive bug assignees. By the way, in case Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> becomes a rolling distribution, also that essential period will go away.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Simply create a good bug #1, that is not about market share
+or world domination, but about community and commitment,
+and every mageia supporter should try to fix this,
+so it should never be resolved, status should be REMINDER.
+
+That would be my approach to good bugzilla handling for Mageia!
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+<PRE>On 8 October 2010 10:56, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On mandriva forum [1] now was a post about OpenSuSE build system can package
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm so they work on different Linux distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/cross_distribution_package_how_to">http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/cross_distribution_package_how_to</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The Build Service can reliably package rpms for not only openSUSE, but also
+</I>&gt;<i> recent SLES, CentOS, Fedora, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Ubuntu, Debian and
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva distributions.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It may not need much more work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Benefit is that maybe more work could be shared between distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if other dists could use Mageia packages, it is a way to draw attention ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But maybe it slows other progress such as future move to rpm5, general
+</I>&gt;<i> installation and build system development?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]: <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132237">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132237</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This looks like a service for upstream projects that want to provide
+binary rpms for various distros (e.g. wine, although I don't think
+wine uses OBS).
+
+Each distro has different tweaks for building packages, different rpm
+macros... etc. For example due to the, rather awesome, rpm
+filetriggers in Mandriva/will-be-in-Mageia, we don't need to add
+anything in the spec files to update menu files, icon theme caches,
+compress manpages, install info files... etc.
+
+Also note that dependencies across distros aren't named the same. IINM
+the closest distro to Mandriva/Mageia is Fedora, in the way
+packages/deps are named, but even in this case they name python
+packages differently for example.
+
+
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+<PRE>Den 2010-10-08 15:55:05 skrev Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Simply create a good bug #1, that is not about market share
+</I>&gt;<i> or world domination, but about community and commitment,
+</I>&gt;<i> and every mageia supporter should try to fix this,
+</I>&gt;<i> so it should never be resolved, status should be REMINDER.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be my approach to good bugzilla handling for Mageia!
+</I>
+Very good idea :)
+
+( And a nice pass to Ubuntu bug #1 )
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+<PRE>On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 11:50 +0200, St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</A> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We had a quite long and complex research to find a name :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100920/000315.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100920/000315.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we indeed stumbled on the fact that the .com was used but this was
+</I>&gt;<i> not seen as a problem since there is a lot of precedent in free
+</I>&gt;<i> software :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> apache.com is not affiliated with apache.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(.com registered before .org )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu.com is not affiliated with ubuntu.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(.org registered 2 years before .com )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome.com is not affiliated with gnome.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(.com 2 years before .org )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> python.com is not affiliated with python.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(.com 1 year before .org)
+</I>
+You could have warned about python.com first, it's an &quot;adults&quot; site!
+ Luckily I was able to close it really fast :D
+
+
+--
+Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 08 octobre 2010 &#224; 15:55 +0200, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> Simply create a good bug #1, that is not about market share
+</I>&gt;<i> or world domination, but about community and commitment,
+</I>&gt;<i> and every mageia supporter should try to fix this,
+</I>&gt;<i> so it should never be resolved, status should be REMINDER.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be my approach to good bugzilla handling for Mageia!
+</I>
+I have been thinking of this, but I fear this will overload the system,
+like bug #1 at launchpad. For some months, they had to replace it with a
+static page because of the load. There is 1329 comments on it :
+<A HREF="https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1">https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1</A>
+
+and showing them all with
+<A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1?comments=all">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1?comments=all</A> lead to a timeout.
+
+So I would prefer that :
+
+1) we start at 10 ( or 100 )
+2) we do not have a potential ressource hog on bugzilla :)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> On 05/10/10 14:34, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wouldn't this be the basis for including, say, a default
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dongle
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation and a number of representative providers or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appropriate links?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would make the job of the maintainer of these setups
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quite a dedicated job. Providers come and go depending on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their financial success. When they are successful, the get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bought out. It would be best, in my opinion, as a FAQ or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wiki item that would somehow be available to users at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time of installation. A text file does not take a lot of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> space on a disc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds reasonable, if the basic dongle installation was
+</I>&gt;<i> included on the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&lt;Apologies - I've lost your post about the kernel not
+recognising your dongle; and please forgive me if this is
+already known to you&gt;
+
+My dongle wasn't recognised as such by the MDV 2009.1 kernel
+either.
+I had to install
+lsusb
+usb-storage
+usbserial.
+usb-modeswitch (from rpmfind.net)
+wvdial
+(kppp I had already installed).
+
+As far as I know usb-modeswitch isn't dongle-specific.
+
+However it was essential to attach the dongle BEFORE booting
+up for the mode switch to take place, otherwise it was just
+recognised as a simple memory stick.
+Then
+ls -alrt /dev/ttyUSB* showed
+/dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 /dev/ttyUSB2 /dev/ttyUSB3
+
+After that there were some configuration steps to carry out.
+
+Doug
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+ <B>yvan munoz</B>
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+<PRE>My question is basically revolved around the fact that mdk / mdv has always
+been a pretty active community around the documentation, and in all the
+languages I think it does. On the other, as you point out there were clear
+and well defined process for creating official documentation.
+
+On the wiki, we have all seen change so diverse content by language. This is
+a sign of wealth but may be unfortunate because we lost by lack of
+unification.
+The other defect of the wiki is the feeling of unfinished work forever.
+(When you do not implement the same procedures as in Gentoo or Fedora).
+Which, by experience one realizes, is part of a source of confusion for
+readers, and other corporate sources of exhaustion for writers, because of
+criticism due to the first point.
+
+The process you describe, and that you report to want to keep extending it,
+the process is professional, professional quality.
+
+And I want to ask you some questions about how best to:
+1. not frustrate the contributors to the wiki, they can participate
+2. not repeat the mistakes of a wiki giving the impression of never finished
+(not good for users, not as nice returns for writers)
+3. not to lose local skills when they are not able to have a minimum
+technical English despite having all the qualities and willingness to
+participate
+
+Hence the idea (but certainly not the best) can also enhance the
+professional quality documentation with translations, certainly rare in the
+sense other languages -&gt; English. And not just in one direction.
+
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+<PRE>2010/10/7 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> I am the one who volunteered of writing it
+</I>
+2010/10/7 Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt;
+News about forums progress :
+
+
+
+Is it possible to examine details about the forum together?
+
+by experience of the forums, it does not seem to have a good rating users
+depending on the nomber posts. This leads readers to some confusion as to
+the quality of assistance sometimes. Is it possible to remove this function
+pbpbb?
+
+second question: is it possible to record the messages for all the worst for
+a category (typically moderators) at best. This is to save time in the
+classification of questions and tips written by everyone?
+
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+&gt;<i> &lt;Apologies - I've lost your post about the kernel not recognising your
+</I>&gt;<i> dongle; and please forgive me if this is already known to you&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My dongle wasn't recognised as such by the MDV 2009.1 kernel either.
+</I>&gt;<i> I had to install
+</I>&gt;<i> lsusb
+</I>&gt;<i> usb-storage
+</I>&gt;<i> usbserial.
+</I>&gt;<i> usb-modeswitch (from rpmfind.net)
+</I>&gt;<i> wvdial
+</I>&gt;<i> (kppp I had already installed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I know usb-modeswitch isn't dongle-specific.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However it was essential to attach the dongle BEFORE booting up for the
+</I>&gt;<i> mode switch to take place, otherwise it was just recognised as a simple
+</I>&gt;<i> memory stick.
+</I>&gt;<i> Then
+</I>&gt;<i> ls -alrt /dev/ttyUSB* showed
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 /dev/ttyUSB2 /dev/ttyUSB3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After that there were some configuration steps to carry out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks! I'll give it a try this weekend. It would be awesome if this
+worked out.
+
+Marc
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it
+</I>&gt;<i> should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be in a print-ready form for ease of reference.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure! Just keep in mind we cannot reuse mdv documentation because of
+</I>&gt;<i> licence (at least from 2005). I spoke with Camille (from Neodoc). He
+</I>&gt;<i> seems ok to give a hand and host Calenco platform for Mageia doc. It
+</I>&gt;<i> means we would have real tool that fits doc team needs: manage
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation project, translations, writters, readers...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Could be good but if it will be used, please remember provide some
+documentation how exactly to translate, also. Being not able to understand
+how it works (besides short-lived experiment providing PO-files for
+translation) was and is IMHO main reason why Mandriva documentation is
+translated quite a few languages.
+
+Marek Laane
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; John NZ
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be good but if it will be used, please remember provide some
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation how exactly to translate, also. Being not able to understand
+</I>&gt;<i> how it works (besides short-lived experiment providing PO-files for
+</I>&gt;<i> translation) was and is IMHO main raeason why Mandriva documentation is
+</I>&gt;<i> translated quite a few languages.
+</I>
+Sure! Anyway using such tools should allow non technical guys to contribute :)
+
+&gt;<i> Marek Laaneuys
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; John NZ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<I>yvan munoz
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+</A><A NAME="2292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 10:56:23 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002272.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002273.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002274.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002276.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002278.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002280.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002282.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002283.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002284.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002285.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>doug
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002286.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002287.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002288.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002289.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002291.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002292.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:51 CEST 2010</i>
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+ <ul>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 10:56:23 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002286.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002287.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002291.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002292.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002274.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002276.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002283.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002278.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002288.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002289.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002272.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002273.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002280.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002282.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002284.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002285.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>doug
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:51 CEST 2010</i>
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+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 10:56:23 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01286528183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002272.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286528183-01286529392- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002273.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286528183-01286546520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002280.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286528183-01286546520-01286546858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002282.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm compatibility
+</A><A NAME="2282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286531441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002274.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286531441-01286531805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286531441-01286531977- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002276.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286531441-01286532228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286531441-01286536932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002278.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286531441-01286536932-01286547152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002283.html">[Mageia-discuss] Are you aware that mageia.com is already registered...
+</A><A NAME="2283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286546105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286546105-01286546612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286546105-01286547570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002284.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?
+</A><A NAME="2284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286556819- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002285.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>doug
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286556819-01286562652- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286559417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002286.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286559417-01286559724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002287.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286560314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002288.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286560314-01286560414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002289.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum
+</A><A NAME="2289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286570623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002291.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286570623-01286570927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002292.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?
+</A><A NAME="2292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:47 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Oct 8 22:48:51 CEST 2010</i>
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