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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ <I>Tue Oct 5 15:26:21 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-05 09:04, Christopher Swift a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Ar Maw, 2010-10-05 am 10:38 +0200, ysgrifennodd Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, no consistency planned for language/location for channels, let's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> grow this. See <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc</A> (will re-route
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> web site list to this one).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here, #mageia-uk first come for United Kingdom, first served. For
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ukraine/ukrainian-speaking, -ukr or -ua or something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems like this is all wrapped up at last. Ideally we could a model of
+</I>&gt;<i> both local teams and language teams being able to use a 2 character
+</I>&gt;<i> country/language code. It might be possible to have for example
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-es to cater for Spanish speaking support and local Spanish
+</I>&gt;<i> events if that is the will of the channel owner, or one or the other. I
+</I>&gt;<i> reckon that we should take this on a case-by-case basis by listening to
+</I>&gt;<i> the teams involved in how they would like their #mageia-* namespace to
+</I>&gt;<i> be used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With regions such as Wales (Cymru in Welsh) it may be a better option to
+</I>&gt;<i> use three letter codes such as -cym for Cymru, -sco for Scotland or -bzh
+</I>&gt;<i> for Brittany. Or we could have #mageia-fr-br to represent that Brittany
+</I>&gt;<i> is part of France and #mageia-uk-cy to show that Cymru/Wales is part of
+</I>&gt;<i> the UK. We should try to stick to the ISO standards are closely as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible but there may be times where two groups, i.e. a country code
+</I>&gt;<i> and a language code may conflict and it best to serve those on a first
+</I>&gt;<i> come first served basis in my humble opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone else got any differing ideas for the matter at hand?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cofion Gorau
+</I>&gt;<i> Chris
+</I>
+In order to circumvent problems with the confusion of 2 letter code with
+country-code and language-code designation, the ISO ratified the ISO
+country-code with 2 letters
+(<A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>); ISO
+ratified the ISO language-code with 2 or 3 letters
+(<A HREF="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp?order=639_3&amp;letter=e">http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp?order=639_3&amp;letter=e</A>) -- not that
+the SIL International, site that this link points to, is the
+international organization in charge of codifying the language codes..
+
+In our case a country-code designation and a country-code designation fo
+3 letter would solve the problem.
+
+#mageia-uk (channel for country-localization - UK)
+#mageia-eng (channel for language-localization - English language)
+
+#mageia-fr (channel for country-localization- France))
+#mageia-fra (channel for language-localization - French language)
+
+#mageia-es (channel for country-localization - Spain)
+#mageia-spa (channel for language-localization - spanish language)
+
+The is clear and easily explainable and verifyable by identifying our
+reasons in a FAQ item with a link to the sites in charge of the conventions.
+
+How easy is that?
+
+Marc
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