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So by letting devs pick out the +</I>>><i> conversations that they would like to choose and follow, they will not +</I>>><i> want to participate? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I mean that if you flood them with forum posts by users happy to post +</I>><i> all their lives into the bridge devs will add a rule to drop +</I>><i> automatically everything coming from the forum (and grunt about wasted +</I>><i> bandwidth) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And if they dont use the rule approach they will simply unsuscribe... +</I>><i> you will not force devs to cooperate... you will not have them cooperate +</I>><i> without making big efforts to filter topics they don't want to see. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They are skilled enough to make all your efforts to force them useless +</I>><i> however hard you try. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And the global community (all contrib and users included) is to have +</I>><i> devs employed to tasks they alone are able to do :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So this is *also* in the best users interest to avoid bothering devs +</I>><i> with useless mail reading or questions that support or advanced users +</I>><i> can perfectly deal with :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> +</I>Ahh, I see. There seems to be a communication problem here. My apologies +if I was not clear. + +I was taking the view that with the bidirectional gateway, allowing the +devs to see and participate in user discussions and they would clearly +not be forced to read any threads/discussions that they were not +interested in. + +And you are talking about users participating in dev discussions and +devs not having the patience for "with useless mail reading or questions +that support or advanced users can perfectly deal with". + +So, in a way, we are talking about the same thing but from a different +perspective. + +So, this thread is about the merits of a mailist-forum offering +bidirectional gateway allowing all people to see/communicate with each +other regardless of the means, mailist, irc, forums etc. If I understand +your argument, you are saying that devs may not be interested in having +non-knowledgeable users taking part in their discussions as they could +find this annoying and they could possibly just quit participating in +discussions where they are overwhelmed with "novice" input. + +My argument, is that devs would then have, by the simple process of the +bidirectional gateway, the ability to "see" everyone's conversations and +that, whichever conversation would look interesting to them, they could +join in. + +Under this whole umbrella everyone would of course have to adhere to the +normal netiquette rules of conduct as laid out for mailists; irc, +forums. So, participation for everyone becomes a choice of their own and +if a discussion thread garners so much attention that it is overwhelmed +with questions by "less-informed" users/devs, then you could either +ignore their contributions to the discussion or try to inform them of +the issues. Often times this will fix the problem. + +I have been following the thread on mirror infrastructure and have not +contributed to any of the discussions, but why would I not be permitted +to sit in on the sidelines? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002145.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2147">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2147">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2147">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2147">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |