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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 4 12:49:45 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 &#224; 21:12 +0200, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've been (a few of us) hanging out in #mageia-uk, and the name of the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel has annoyed some folks from the Ukraine, who wanted that name.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we have a nother (unofficial) channel now, called #mageia-gb.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, when we looked at the ISO country codes, we discover that
+</I>&gt;<i> Ukraine would actually be UA, and SE is Sweden, not the Sammi language,
+</I>&gt;<i> as some thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;<i> country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or by
+</I>&gt;<i> language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we could nail this down right away, it would save much grief later.
+</I>
+My own opinion is that :
+1) a ruling would be too much dictatorial and bureaucratic
+2) we should hear both group in case of trouble
+3) we should also try to model this based on irc user expectations
+
+So, instead of trying to generalize naming, and trying to solve problem
+that do not show up, let's focus on the issue of -uk .
+
+How are the others community channel named for both groups ?
+
+Fedora :
+<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC</A>
+
+#fedora-uk -&gt; united kingdom
+nothing for ukranian
+
+Debian :
+<A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/IRC">http://wiki.debian.org/IRC</A> debian
+
+#debian-uk -&gt; united kingdom
+again, nothing for ukranian
+
+Ubuntu :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelNaming">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelNaming</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList</A>
+
+#ubuntu-uk -&gt; united kingdom
+#ubuntu-ua -&gt; ukrainian
+
+Opensuse :
+<A HREF="http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_list">http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_list</A>
+
+nothing for both
+
+Gentoo :
+<A HREF="http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/irc.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/irc.xml</A>
+#gentoo-uk -&gt; united kingdom
+#gentoo-ua -&gt; ukrainian
+
+Arch :
+<A HREF="http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_Channels">http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_Channels</A>
+
+Nothing from both.
+
+Freebsd :
+<A HREF="http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels">http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels</A>
+Nothing rom both
+
+So, my own understanding is that most users would expect to have -uk to
+be us united kingdom, so we should follow this too.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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