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need a ruling from the board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2079">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2079">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2079">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2079">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all, + +After many opinions and suggestions exchanges, mails and thought we have +started to work on forum thing. + +Considering our hope to grow we started to analyse the board engines +with a few axis of needs : + +Work input data : +---- + +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29</A> +<A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com/">http://www.big-boards.com/</A> +<A HREF="http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin">http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin</A> + +(In this last link boards versions are not perfectly up-to date :-( ) + +(and secunia resports about security alerts these last years) + +Axes : +---- + +1) Ability to hold under heavy loads and store many posts + +=> phpBB3, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, MesDiscussions.net which +are the most represented on big boards + +2) Moderation features + +=> vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, MyBB + +3) User Features + +=> vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +MyBB, FudForum + +4) Security + +=> phpBB3, FudForum, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2... + +(phpBB2 was not even considered as an option from the beginning) +(MyBB was not very good) + +5) Look and ergonomy + +=> vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +MyBB... + +5) Opensource (GPL or AGPL) + +=> phpBB3, FudForum, MyBB (GPLv3 \o/), punBB, phorum... + + + +Method and results : +---- + +We excluded proprietary software (wether free or not)... + +(Of course when it comes to usability and features vBulletin and +Invision Power Board are far ahead... the goal was to find something +hopefully able to compete with them) : + +So exit: vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, Simple Machines Forum 2, +MesDiscussions.net... + +Then we excluded forums with utf8 know issues like punBB... + +Then we excluded forums with too well known security issues discovered +theses last years : + +So exit: MyBB (Sad for french people but that's life) and phorum... +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics</A> +<A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics</A> + +for Fudforum there were not much issues but one of them allowed system +access... we saved it because of people enthusiasm on the lists :) + +Then we Excluded forums with bad organization of +administration/moderation control panels and/or missing moderation features: + +So exit: fudforum (which also would have been painful to relook) and +FluxBB also. + +Nota: Fud has got the very cool mailing list bridge that we should set +up rather as soon as possible on the official board (but as already said +this feature still needs to be thought about, discussed by people and +heavily tested to avoid backfires... considering the current mailing +lists trafic and the obvious lack of love of some packagers for forums +this is not something to underestimate) + + + +=> The survivor is phpBB3 which is n°1 in big-boards.com and yet is far +from perfect imho. It will need some tweaking (that others would have +needed also : mainly about troll management, and also support +enhancements for example to mark support topics as [solved]) to match +more closely our needs... + +So we started to work on phpBB3 with ash (thanks to ennael personal +funding)... + +One cool thing is that phpBB3 is published also through git so we are +able to track upstream changes and merge them quickly into our running +version without breaking local patches and enhancements. (The upgrade +via this method has been successfully tested a few hours ago) + +At this precise minute we have a fresh new (skinned) up-to-date phpBB3 +running that still needs a few adds (language packs for example). + +Hope we'll be soon able to push DNS records so that everybody can get in +and give us feedback and improvement proposals. + +Stay tuned, +Maât (a little bit tired... sorry my english is probably uglier than usual) + + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002082.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2079">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2079">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2079">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2079">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |