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+ <B>Margot</B>
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+ <I>Sun Oct 3 22:32:48 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 15:38:05 -0400
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-10-03 15:12, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We've been (a few of us) hanging out in #mageia-uk, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; name of the channel has annoyed some folks from the Ukraine,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who wanted that name. So, we have a nother (unofficial) channel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now, called #mageia-gb. However, when we looked at the ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; country codes, we discover that Ukraine would actually be UA,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and SE is Sweden, not the Sammi language, as some thought.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If we could nail this down right away, it would save much grief
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; later.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where
+</I>&gt;<i> it is applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-ua for Ukraine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same should be applied for dates. We should also follow the
+</I>&gt;<i> date format as set out by the ISO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's follow standards where they are established.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Using gb for the United Kingdom would possibly be politically
+dangerous, which is why UK websites are .co.uk .org.uk etc and
+not .co.gb .org.gb etc.
+
+The full name of our country is the &quot;United Kingdom of Great Britain
+&amp; Northern Ireland&quot; - using the GB code is offensive to people from
+Northern Ireland, because Northern Ireland is a valued part of the
+United Kingdom but is NOT part of Great Britain.
+
+As IRC is an internet service, I suggest we stay with UK for the
+United Kingdom (to match our websites) and Ukraine should be UA.
+
+--
+Margot
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