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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Fri Oct 1 05:16:39 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 1 October 2010 04:30, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday, September 30, 2010 06:32:29 pm Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did started to contact some people to find Tier1 mirrors. One question
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> come immediatelly: what will be the size of our mirror tree ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To have an idea I checked the mirror of the current Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the result make me afraid.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The current cooker tree (RPMS + installer only) is 88GB (SRPMS + i586 +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x86_64). If I add 3 DVD iso (4GB each) I get around 100GB.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This mean at the begining our mirror will be ~80 GB and in 3 years (1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release every 6 months) our tree size will be around 700GB !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 700GB is an huge size. I know anyone can buy a 1 TB hard drive for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> small price, however this is not the way it works in real datacenter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where people take care to the safety of data (RAID1 is two disk). And
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we have to think to future: what will be the size in 6 years ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The current full Mandriva mirror is more than 1,2 TB.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So an immediate question come: should we try to reduce the size ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are solutions, but they implies changes in our development
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> process and have counter parts:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - using hardlink between RPM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; - can be done for noarch inside a release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; - no resiging packages from cooker to stable at release (rpm changes,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; any possible hardlink get broken)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - do not push -debug: will bother others developers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - removing old distro (having another tree for old): this usualy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; bother people having old distribution still working on some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; computers, 3 years is not a so long timelife
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - is this kind of size an issue ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - do we have to reduce it ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - do you have comments/idea about this state ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't the SVN that uses most of the space? Do we need to have everything back
+</I>&gt;<i> to the beginning incl all releases?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+IHMO, SVN (and SRPMS) are more important than binary packages, no
+point keeping a twig and killing the tree it came from, right?
+especially as SVN logs explain why every thing concerning a particular
+package was done in a certain way...
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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