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For example I have in my customers , old +people who have some basic needs (like 90% of computer users) : +internet, mail , be in touch through IRC, skype or other tools with +their families. Why should we let Microsoft and computers vendors sell +them expensive tools that they don't need? Linux is able to satisfy +their needs at a low cost and cost is often a problem for old people +with small pensions. +Personnaly I don't like the thinking of being a small community not +opened on the external world, and not looking what is good and well done +by Apple, Ubuntu, Fedora and so on. I think that for these people there +are already good distros like LFS, Sourcemage or Slackware. And Mandriva +is not the one. It seems that Mandriva has began to look for end users +needs but has not finished the job (for example english sentences and +words in locale version during installation, no own identity in the look +with the blue theme inherited from w95...). +Doing nothing and staying in our small circle will encourage Microsoft +and co to continue distributing sh**t to people, produce endlessly more +powerfull computers for nothing... I don't want to participate to this +movement and want to make proselytism for open source. +Another word from microsoft users: they did not choose their distro, it +was imposed to them. +Today there is only one distro having really working in this way. I +would like to see Mandriva to do so, but it won't... +So will Mageia do? +Wil it be a distro, form you , for me or or both? + + +Le 26/09/2010 19:12, P. Christeas a écrit : +><i> On Sunday 26 September 2010, david wrote: +</I>>><i> For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for +</I>>><i> newbies and/or microsoft users,... +</I>><i> Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +</I>><i> why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +</I>><i> product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +</I>><i> of them) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Can't we please keep building a distro for *Linux* users? +</I>><i> If people choose Linux, they shall obviously like Linux, not Windoze. It's +</I>><i> like we are trying to serve a vanilla ice cream to people who prefer +</I>><i> chocolate. Can we, please, keep making vanilla taste like vanilla? We had been +</I>><i> good at that, some years ago. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Lets see again what features had made us like linux in the first place: +</I>><i> - It used to be light and fast. (not like KDE4 or win Vista) +</I>><i> - It used to be able to run for months, even years without a crash or need to +</I>><i> reboot.. (not like knotify4 and pulseaudio) +</I>><i> - It used to do all the things we wanted, with plethora of tools (not like +</I>><i> Gnome or Apple) +</I>><i> - It used to allow us to configure either through gui tools, or through +</I>><i> cmdline and text files (not like the modern "desktop" trends). +</I>><i> - It could connect to the network without the need of a GUI server/client +</I>><i> (not like networkmanager) +</I>><i> - It was free from closed-source applications (not like Android) +</I>><i> - It had allowed us to have a continuous desktop (+home) for many years, +</I>><i> including all the software upgrades, without need to format our disks every 6 +</I>><i> months (not like Ubuntu or some KDE4 apps). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, if we try to sell "better Windows", we'd better just give up and let +</I>><i> Micro$oft do their job, they are better at it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other, marketing-wise, side, when we try to re-invent Windows, we just +</I>><i> admit that our Linux vision was flawed. And, of course, we let down all the +</I>><i> people that had believed our promises about Linux. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> </rant> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/7d29c8ac/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |