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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Fri Sep 24 21:43:47 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 24 september 2010 21:24:00 schreef Dick Gevers:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:58:03 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-discuss] commercial support:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;2010/9/24 herman &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, but that implies that the Mageia license terms must be sufficiently
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; free that 3rd party commercial support can be done legally, using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;The software is GPL, everybody can open shop and support any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;distribution which only contains GPL software. The only thing which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;depends on Mageia or any other distributor is if you want to offer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&quot;certified by Mageia&quot; or similar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For example, one can legally do 3rd party installs and support with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Debian and Scientific, but not with Redhat, Mandriva, Suse or even
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; CentOS, due to their license and trademark terms (yes I know lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people do regardless, but they haven't read/understood the license
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; terms!).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Partly wrong. You can always offer commercial support for openSUSE,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Mandriva Free Edition and such. Only thing you can't is offering
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&quot;certified support&quot;. And of course you need an agreement with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;distributors of commercial distributions to support those.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the need arises, what problem would there be if any number of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> volunteers set up a commercial &quot;Mageia Service SA&quot; with a license from the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia non-profit association to provide such commercial support? They
+</I>&gt;<i> could make a contract that the profits from the SA would go to the
+</I>&gt;<i> association and/or the shareholders and/or the employed volunteers at
+</I>&gt;<i> certain agreed percentages of the earnings.
+</I>
+Personally, i don't think this 'll be a problem if they wanted to be; however:
+
+look at all the other commercial distro's:
+- Novell is in trouble
+- we don't need to speak about Mandriva
+- RedHat barely makes any earnings, even though they are the biggest
+
+a non-profit organisation makes sense to me.
+
+my whole point of this was to have a page with a list of people who had a
+company or are freelancers in their dayjob and are willing to support Mageia
+(non-certified), but are also contributors; so to instill confidence in Mageia
+from a company point of view (small company). i believe debian does this, and
+mentions that this is not related to debian itself at all, or something
+similar.
+
+The sole purpose of that is if you want small companies to use your distro and
+possibly donate if they feel like it. i'm not saying companies use this to
+make money, they could just use it on their computer, or laptop or whatever.
+companies or people who see free stuff, are thinking, but what if there's a
+problem, who can i pay to fix those problems? of course they can ask for free,
+but they know that they don't need to expect something if they ask for free.
+
+if Mageia want's to start a company based on it, that's another thing; but for
+now, let's just focus on the non-profit org.
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