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( not to mention that the +simple existence of the idea "dev and users" is harmful, IMHO ). + +2) forums are IMHO not adapted to the work: + +- depending on the forum, some will mark messages as read while you +didn't , fluxbb for example, and this is stressing ( at least, it does +stress me, since each time, I wonder if I forgot to read something +important or not ) + +- you have to read the whole page to follow a thread, while evolution +allow me to mark just a subthread as read when I know it doesn't +interest me ( like thread about kde or nvidia driver on cooker ) + +- you cannot have subthread, which basically make everything a mess + +- you cannot do any kind of filtering ( like some people do with gnus, +to highlight post with keyword ) + +- you cannot cross post between forum ( which can be required when +specialized ml will appear ) + +- you basically cannot automate much task ( like applying a patch for +git with git am ) + +- you cannot read them offline ( in, when you commute, like what I do ) + +- most of the time, you cannot read them on your phone ( see the commute +part ) + +So basically, for my workflow, and I think I am not having a so uncommon +one among the FOSS crowd, a forum is less adapted than a ML. + + +Regarding devs on forums, I have already expressed myself on cooker ml, +seek my name around august this year. Of course, I may appear like a ass +in theses mails,( maybe because I am one ), but I think that basically +changing the name of the project will not impact much my opinion, and +that still reflect my thoughts. + +Of course, some packagers will read forums, and some used it ( like +Nicolas Lecureil, Samuel Verschelde and likely others ) for various +task, but personally, I would prefer rely on people to help me by doing +the triaging, and let me focus on issues where I can be more useful for +everybody. I think this would scale more than asking every developer to +get on the forum. + +So while I do not want to actively ignore users, it must be clear that +not everybody will/can pass a significant time on forum. And well, while +reading is sufficient in theory, if you just read, people do not know +and feel neglected. But answering requires more time. For example, I +have devoted my full afternoon on reading -discuss and I have still many +mails to read and maybe to answer, so I really do not think I could cope +with a user forums. + +When you take a forum, you need to take one that can show "hot topic", +or something like that, ie think of infrequent readers that may want to +only have the more important discussion ( ie, a +packager/designer/coder/whatever that just pass from time to time ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |