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And comes with some "extras" like +</I>>>><i> localized +</I>>>><i> communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, +</I>>>><i> and +</I>>>><i> turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme +</I>>>><i> sucess, +</I>>>><i> transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are +</I>>>><i> guaranteed. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest +</I>>><i> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed +</I>>><i> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with +</I>>><i> so called local community representatives that have special rights or +</I>>><i> influence. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some +</I>>><i> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the +</I>>><i> opinions of the members of their community. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives +</I>>><i> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their +</I>>><i> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant +</I>>><i> information and manage their local forums, events etc. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there +</I>>><i> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on +</I>>><i> the internet. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Agreed, however, that is not what we were talking about. We were talking +</I>><i> about information flow of information from the outer-localized groups being +</I>><i> communicated back to the main site. +</I>><i> +</I> +I will talk about i know. In the past, blogdrake admins "probes" the +communitie's opinions to make it theirs. Then, they go to to Mandriva's +active channel (whatever) and shows it. The new scheme i see it's ony a +refined version of a good-working scheme. At least, until blogdrake's admins +communicates with mandriva... + +><i> +</I>><i> Having a reverse flow, in my opinion, would be a job tackled on by the +</I>><i> localized groups themselves. That is to mean, if the localized group wanted +</I>><i> to be informed of the goings-on at the main Mageia.org site, they would make +</I>><i> arrangements themselves to translate these to their localized members. +</I>><i> +</I>I agree with it. And -again- the reverse flow could/must be important part +of the local representative's work. + + +><i> The main issue here, as with all large organizations, is to make sure that +</I>><i> the information from the outer-limbs of Mageia makes it back to the cental +</I>><i> hub point from where the decisions are made. Before making decisions on +</I>><i> issues, the Mageia.org hub should have all of the pertinent feedback from +</I>><i> all users (localized or not). The flow should assure this. +</I>><i> +</I> +Again, i talk about i know: On the "assemby times" the blogdrake's admins +were the messenger between assembly and its community (in the two ways +flow). You can be sure we will do again, if neccessary, but maybe it's time +to improve the community implication using some kind of election. But the +scheme i think is valid and applicable to each local community. + + +><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100921/690626cf/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000506.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#511">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#511">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#511">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#511">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |