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The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in +</I>><i> the number of new users. +</I> +Agreed and agreed. That's why I'm happy to see this Mageia initiative +being taken; I think most of us on this list hope for this to turn into a +succesful story. Too long have things been lingering as the result of poor +designs and monetary problems. + +><i> The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm +</I>><i> and new users should be encouraged. +</I> +Agreed. That's why I think it's important that as long as the project +homepage sends new users to this list to discuss, that that is the +appropiate place for 'the official' discussion to take place. The last +thing you want is for there to be confusion on who runs the project and +what it's official home is. Even with the multitude of Mandriva sites it +was through the years not clear which homepage was the right one to use +and which was available for free or which only for club members. Same for +download locations, etc. + +><i> New users of course like web forums, since it doesn't require any setup +</I>><i> and a user with a problem sorely needs an easy to use web forum. +</I> +Perhaps for most new users this holds true. I personally am not a fan of +web fora, but I realise that is just a personal preference. Registering to +post on a forum or sending an email to a mailing list, both which require +you to confirm your email address, seem to be equally complicated +(simple!) to me. + +><i> So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all +</I>><i> about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and +</I>><i> mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva. +</I> +I'm not saying anyone should be discouraged from anything. Till the time +that Mageira actually releases something, I'm more than fine with people +opting to choose Mandriva. + +With that said though, I don't think we've heard anything on the position +of Mandriva SA in all this yet. Perhaps they might be happy to work +together with Mageia and even rebase their own distribution on it in due +course, but they also might oppose this fork and fight it as much as they +can. I don't know which way things will turn out, but I think we should +not assume that everyone is fine with this, especially given the criticism +given to Mandriva SA and its management. Also, the fact that Mandriva did +not launch a community initiative like this themselves has me somewhat +wary as to their position. + +Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point +them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for +registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official +mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions +on the board. + +But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion +to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be +made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to +end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on +their board. + +Sincerely, + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100919/7365572c/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001927.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1923">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1923">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1923">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1923">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |